leandrombraz
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No.
Your analysis suffers from one massive flaw: the arbitrary start point (X) and end point (Y) for your analysis.
Beyond that, you also ignore that the decision to chop or not will depend on a large variety of contextual considerations such as:
- is the tile needed for a district or wonder
- is the tile needed for a farm or unique improvement (great wall, etc)
- is the forest needed for long term production (in a city lacking hills or resources that can be mined)
- is the increased appeal from the forest significant to one's future goals
- is the adjacency bonus from the forest worth preserving
- does the forest provide strategic value (line of sight, movement penalty, defense bonus)
Perhaps considering these factors is implied, but from reading your initial post your conclusion seems pretty absolute.
A final consideration is the sheer joy of not having crap production in cities surrounded by flat lands. Those lumber mills are crucial to those cities not being utter trash at production.
That's the problem with reducing how you play to a mathematical formula. You need to know how to react to each situation that is presented. If you're just blindly following a formula, you might get more total production here and there but you gonna be losing something, somewhere else for making the wrong decision at that time. Chopping might give more production on standard but it doesn't mean chopping is always the right decision. It was before because Lumber Mill was really weak unless on a river, now it's viable.
Something to consider is flexibility. Sacrificing total production to get a city with better production per turn, gives the player more flexibility to react to whatever is happening on his game. If I need to produce something at a specific time for whatever reason, I can. Chop is powerful but once you use it, it's gone. OP reduces the matter to which one will give more production in X turns and he doesn't see that production per turn have its own advantages that can't be reduced to a general formula..
You're saying this just because you don't know math or scientific way of dealing things, you tend to play by belief. With maths If I make a mistake I instantly deny and correct it, however you follow your religion on mills so you always stand still even if you realized that may be incorrect.
Yes you can stand still and continue to think T219 is a good record or sth. like that. You can do that all day, I know.
I never said it was a record, just that it was pre-modern. You're reading it that way and giving importance to the turn I won because you seem to be incapable of looking at anything without your "quick wins master" glasses. It made zero sense to focus on the turn I won there, it make even less sense to bring that up here. What that has to do with chop vs lumber mills? Does chopping reduce the congress timer? Would I get a congress earlier if I chopped more?
You're the one suggesting I should always chop without even considering any other variables. I'm not the one following a religion here. I chop when I need to, I go for lumber mills when I think it will be better for that specific scenario.
It seems that I'm using Newton's law to conclude that you cannot run faster than a car. However you begin to cry
You're not Newton and we're not talking about physical laws.