"Round world"?

[Satyri]

I'm new to the civilization series as i just recently found out about my new ombsession whit strategy games like Knights of honor, rome total war, etc. I'v always tought that there was someting missing in those games and so far evriting i tought was missing seems to be int civ IV
still my question is that if you can sale from one edge of the map and "over it to the other side of the map like the world was round if u get my point (im no too good whit english so i cant think of a better way to explain it)
i'w just seen some screenshots where the camera goes over the map edge and continue to the other side of the map
thanks for any KIND replays

 

[Varelse]

Yes, you have a "round" map where you can go around the world on the east-west axis, but not north-south. There is an option for a flat world or a world that has a north-south wrap though, or at least there was in earlier versions.

 

[Satyri]

yess!!!!! finally i think iv found the game iv always dreamed about

 

[Fredric Drum]

Round world???! BURN HIM!!

 

[Jecrell]

Just for laughs we could try and mod the world to be flat until the explorers

 

[rickb]

Well there is the obvious fact that ships sailing below the horizon gives you clear indication the world is round, and a few thousand years ago a clever Greek fellow by the name of Eratosthenes even computed the size of the Earth correctly by measuring the difference in shadow angles at noon in locations at different latitudes. Columbus was just an idiot who didn't even know how big the Earth was.

Actually given the fact that the minimap will not reveal your exact location in the world until you do a little exploring, I assume the world will be "flat" to you for a while and you won't be able to zoom out to the "globe" view. Also bear in mind this is purely a graphic effect, the world is still flat, just wrapped onto a cylinder and slightly bowed to give a round effect when you zoom all the way out.

 

[Hozchelaga]

Columbus was just an idiot who didn't even know how big the Earth was.

That might be the case. But it might also be that the overly-optimistic explorer was trying to secure the financial backing of Spain's monarchs by exagerrating the ease with which he could reach the East.

Columbus was an idiot or he was making a sales pitch, or both.

 

[Esckey]

Uh? The mini map won't show where you are till you've explored more? How does that work?

 

[warpstorm]

It will center the mini-map around what you have discovered already rather than placing it at the correct spot.

 

[ninty]

Well there is the obvious fact that ships sailing below the horizon gives you clear indication the world is round, and a few thousand years ago a clever Greek fellow by the name of Eratosthenes even computed the size of the Earth correctly by measuring the difference in shadow angles at noon in locations at different latitudes. Columbus was just an idiot who didn't even know how big the Earth was.

Actually given the fact that the minimap will not reveal your exact location in the world until you do a little exploring, I assume the world will be "flat" to you for a while and you won't be able to zoom out to the "globe" view. Also bear in mind this is purely a graphic effect, the world is still flat, just wrapped onto a cylinder and slightly bowed to give a round effect when you zoom all the way out.

Eratosthenes was Egyptian wasn't he? Anyway, you're right...then those inhabiting the earth decided to put away their books and bring out their swords for 1500 years and halt scientific advancement for that time.

 

[Milan's Warrior]

Just for laughs we could try and mod the world to be flat until the explorers

That is a cute idea

 

[narmox]

Eratosthenes was Egyptian wasn't he? Anyway, you're right...then those inhabiting the earth decided to put away their books and bring out their swords for 1500 years and halt scientific advancement for that time.

Actually development didn't stop. Farming techniques, military advances, and I don't know what else were more focused on though...

 

[kitsquad]

Actually development didn't stop. Farming techniques, military advances, and I don't know what else were more focused on though...

umm shall we say they went down another path on the tech tree?

 

[eddie_verdde]

Uh? The mini map won't show where you are till you've explored more? How does that work?

You don't need to worry about this, though, because you can easily find out your position in the world by looking carefully at the types of terrain surrounding your initial settler.

eg: - if there is a jungle near you, you are probably near the equator

- if there are tundras to the north, you are in the Northern Hemisphere, so you might want to move to the south where the lands are richer

- if there are tundras to the south you are in the Southern Hemisphere, so it's better not to go farther to the south

- if the forest near you is composed of pines, you are probably somewhere between one of the tropics and one of the poles.


In a nutshell, it's easy to find out where you are by other means, so, this idea of not revealling the relative position of the starting location was not very brilliant...it's just useless...

 

[Vael]

Yes, you have a "round" map where you can go around the world on the east-west axis, but not north-south. There is an option for a flat world or a world that has a north-south wrap though, or at least there was in earlier versions.

Well, one can wrap both x and y, but rather than a sphere you get a torus, or donut...

 

[Evol]

That might be the case. But it might also be that the overly-optimistic explorer was trying to secure the financial backing of Spain's monarchs by exagerrating the ease with which he could reach the East.

Columbus was an idiot or he was making a sales pitch, or both.

It's unlikely that he was making a sales pitch. He died with the conviction that he had reached Eastern Asia, when most sailors at that time strongly supported that the new lands where in fact another continent, Americo Vespuci among others.

Columbus was a lucky idiot.

 

[garric]

It's unlikely that he was making a sales pitch. He died with the conviction that he had reached Eastern Asia, when most sailors at that time strongly supported that the new lands where in fact another continent, Americo Vespuci among others.

Columbus was a lucky idiot.

Americo wasn't sailor - he never went to America. He was just a fraud.

 

[aahz_capone]

Actually, the 14th century idea of a flat world was a 19th century myth. An american author by the name of Washington Irving (I think) wrote a fictional story on how Columbus went out to prove the Church wrong on their teachings of a flat world. But the church never actually taught this. In fact they and pretty much every sailor around accepted that the world was round. Only hundreds of years later when the Church started browbeating scientist (a la copernicus) did this notion of a flat world come about.

 

[Belboz]

Actually, the 14th century idea of a flat world was a 19th century myth. An american author by the name of Washington Irving (I think) wrote a fictional story on how Columbus went out to prove the Church wrong on their teachings of a flat world. But the church never actually taught this. In fact they and pretty much every sailor around accepted that the world was round. Only hundreds of years later when the Church started browbeating scientist (a la copernicus) did this notion of a flat world come about.

Good point. On the other hand, there's some potential game humor in a 'Flat Earth' mod, which would set up a scenario in which exploratory units that go too far in any direction disappear and are never heard from again. Imagine the defensive potential in being literally at the end of the earth, which would limit the directions you can be attacked from.