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Theryman
King
El Justo: Continuing from the TCW thread, this one probably takes longer because of all the extra cities, especially in places like Africa and America.
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Berliner Tageblatt, Montag, 22.04.1904
Durchbruch im Ural... Madagaskar eingenommen... Seeschlacht von Kap York...
The German offensive in the East lead to a massive breakthrough in the Ural mountains. Yekaterinenburg and Chelyabinsk were captured by our glorious fighters. As was Archangelsk. The Russian front has collapsed. A massive offensive is not expectable, as a German officer meant. Hopefully he is right!
British and Argentinean Madagascar were taken. Like Diego Suarez Tamatave was captured. Soon the army will be back in port. Rumors say, Arabia is the next station. There however with Basra, Medina and Mecca the Chinese took three cities. The yellow peril has to be watched carefully!
At sea U 69 sank a Russian Borodino class BB off Norway escorting a TR. The boat could not sink the TR, too, but was able to hold contact that the Zeppelins based at Oslo were able to sink the TR. Also another British DD was sunk by the Zeppelins based at Brest in the Channel. And U 9 sank a British TR near Singapore. Another sea battle took place near Cape York. Three British destroyer fell victim to Uboats and destroyer.
Berliner Tageblatt, Dienstag, 23.04.1907
Keine kriegsrelevanten Neuigkeiten...
No war relevant news. Therefore we have to rely on other news:
Hamburg: Despite the war the new Hagenbeck's Zoo will be opened. Delays are not expected.
The Opere Gloria by Francesco Cilea was seen first at the Scala two weeks ago. Our cultural reporter thinks...
Adler
Durchbruch im Ural... Madagaskar eingenommen... Seeschlacht von Kap York...
The German offensive in the East lead to a massive breakthrough in the Ural mountains. Yekaterinenburg and Chelyabinsk were captured by our glorious fighters. As was Archangelsk. The Russian front has collapsed. A massive offensive is not expectable, as a German officer meant. Hopefully he is right!
British and Argentinean Madagascar were taken. Like Diego Suarez Tamatave was captured. Soon the army will be back in port. Rumors say, Arabia is the next station. There however with Basra, Medina and Mecca the Chinese took three cities. The yellow peril has to be watched carefully!
At sea U 69 sank a Russian Borodino class BB off Norway escorting a TR. The boat could not sink the TR, too, but was able to hold contact that the Zeppelins based at Oslo were able to sink the TR. Also another British DD was sunk by the Zeppelins based at Brest in the Channel. And U 9 sank a British TR near Singapore. Another sea battle took place near Cape York. Three British destroyer fell victim to Uboats and destroyer.
Berliner Tageblatt, Dienstag, 23.04.1907
Keine kriegsrelevanten Neuigkeiten...
No war relevant news. Therefore we have to rely on other news:
Hamburg: Despite the war the new Hagenbeck's Zoo will be opened. Delays are not expected.
The Opere Gloria by Francesco Cilea was seen first at the Scala two weeks ago. Our cultural reporter thinks...
Adler
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Berliner Tageblatt, Montag, 13.05.1907
Ungebremste Offensive im Osten... Schwere Seegefechte... Landung auf Guadalcanal...
Our offensive in the east did not slow down much. Ashgabat and Astana were taken with little losses.
On the seas heavy seafights took place. A British convoy of 2 CA, 1 predreadnought and a TR was sunk near Plymouth like a British DD and BB there, too. Near Singapore 2 British DD were torpedoed by our Uboats, 2 others in the Coral Sea.
There our troops invaded the Solomons and landed on Guadalcanal.
Berliner Tageblatt Dienstag, 14.05.1907
Katastrophe von Ashgabat...
Russian troops took Asgabat back. German officals still said, only small setback as there are too many forces near to take the city back at once.
Adler
Ungebremste Offensive im Osten... Schwere Seegefechte... Landung auf Guadalcanal...
Our offensive in the east did not slow down much. Ashgabat and Astana were taken with little losses.
On the seas heavy seafights took place. A British convoy of 2 CA, 1 predreadnought and a TR was sunk near Plymouth like a British DD and BB there, too. Near Singapore 2 British DD were torpedoed by our Uboats, 2 others in the Coral Sea.
There our troops invaded the Solomons and landed on Guadalcanal.
Berliner Tageblatt Dienstag, 14.05.1907
Katastrophe von Ashgabat...
Russian troops took Asgabat back. German officals still said, only small setback as there are too many forces near to take the city back at once.
Adler
Theryman
King
Guess I will post what happened to me, too, then.
Playing as America, I have two goals- Realize completely Clay's American System, and epitomize the feeling of Manifest Destiny in the American public.
I quickly encounter my first obstacle with the America system- I have very few workers. Two or three is not many for such a big nation. God news, though- all of America is already hooked up railroads. And I accomplish part of the first goal.
To accomplish the second goal, I look south- Polk was nice, but didn't he realize he could have had so much more? Sure, Texas and Southwest is nice, but Mexico would keep problems from cropping up in the next 100 years! After a small buildup, war is declared. The two cities to the immediate south of the border are taken of the first turn with minimal losses. Over on the peninsula, three infranty manage to capture both city with no losses.
I push further and further into Mexico, and eventually reach thei capital. By now I have a few dynamit guns built, and put them to use. Generally innefictive. I order the attack- unit after unit slams into the city's defenders, and I lose many before the city is in my control. Cuidad de Mexico? WTH is that? Promptly renamed Mexico City. Mexico is killed off a few turns later.
Central America has the Panama Canal, an extremely important strategic thingy. They die quick. I was surprised.
Playing as America, I have two goals- Realize completely Clay's American System, and epitomize the feeling of Manifest Destiny in the American public.
I quickly encounter my first obstacle with the America system- I have very few workers. Two or three is not many for such a big nation. God news, though- all of America is already hooked up railroads. And I accomplish part of the first goal.
To accomplish the second goal, I look south- Polk was nice, but didn't he realize he could have had so much more? Sure, Texas and Southwest is nice, but Mexico would keep problems from cropping up in the next 100 years! After a small buildup, war is declared. The two cities to the immediate south of the border are taken of the first turn with minimal losses. Over on the peninsula, three infranty manage to capture both city with no losses.
I push further and further into Mexico, and eventually reach thei capital. By now I have a few dynamit guns built, and put them to use. Generally innefictive. I order the attack- unit after unit slams into the city's defenders, and I lose many before the city is in my control. Cuidad de Mexico? WTH is that? Promptly renamed Mexico City. Mexico is killed off a few turns later.
Central America has the Panama Canal, an extremely important strategic thingy. They die quick. I was surprised.
civplayer23
Chieftain
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recieved a message that went something like art/ spanishcavalry didnt work. message came about 30 turns in while i was playing as germany, it also ended the game
Theryman
King
Also, in 1897, the president would have been Mckinley, not Cleveland. And after him came Teddy.
Finally done with my monster game as the Germans. Note that this is a domination victory (66% area and 66% pop). I have 66% area and 72% population. See the small map in the lower left corner. The only positions left are the Dutch with 2 cities in the West Indies, Japan, the English (the only overseas places they have left are the Falklands, Belize City, and South New Zeland) and the US along with my faithful allies, the Austrians. VP stood at 3700 and some change, so I was close there. You can see the huge cash reserve I had built up as well as the amount of cash I had coming in per tern.
German military stood at over 2800 units, featuring:
300 transports
33 Battleships
191 Dreadnaughts
7 Battle Cruisers
138 Armored Cruisers
120 Destroyers
50 Subs
30 MG units
320 artillery
588 Colonial infantry
101 Colonial cav
335 Infantry
24 Cav
55 Fokker
29 Zepplins
Theryman
King
Also, why are naval ships so cheap? It is too easy to mass produce them, I think. Of course, you need them just to stand a chance against all of Englands torpedo boats- so damn many of them!
jimmygeo
Warlord
Sorry, but I can't post a save game from my monster game because even zipped it's 1.67 meg. I realized however that the reason it took me so long was that I was playing the last beta version which had higher victory conditions: 5200+ VP; 75% territory, 75% population. When I recover from this marathon, I'll try the easier release version.
Theryman, I agree about the cost of ships. I had so many I had to leave some in port so that I could manage the rest. And I still swept the seas of every enemy ship. I think the main reason for their cheapness is so that the AI will produce them in some quantity. (Otherwise, there wouldn't be any out there to sink! Ha, ha.
jimmygeo
Theryman, I agree about the cost of ships. I had so many I had to leave some in port so that I could manage the rest. And I still swept the seas of every enemy ship. I think the main reason for their cheapness is so that the AI will produce them in some quantity. (Otherwise, there wouldn't be any out there to sink! Ha, ha.
jimmygeo
John Galt
Chieftain
Theryman, Polk didn't take Mexico because he had the brains to realize that a seizure of Mexico would have over extended the fairly weak American Army. Just as the attempted seizure of Canada in the War of 1812 was met with resounding failure. However, I agree that in this scenario the Central Americans/ Mexico are rip for the picking! Especially considering the enormous strategic value that they hold, I expected them to be vastly defended.
By the way....
Magnificent job Klyden! A domination victory is truly impressive!
By the way....
Magnificent job Klyden! A domination victory is truly impressive!
El Justo
Deity
holy schnykies Klyden! 
that picture is worth a thousand words dude! well done 
@Theryman
the scenario starts in 1895. so cleveland was at the helm then and that's why he's in there as the US leader.
and yes, ship costs are cheap so that the AI slants a little towards building them. and build them it does! i can see the point though of them being too cheap. however, for the sake of gameplay (primarily the AI), i think it's about right.
jimmygeo,
ahh - now i see why it was so long. also, the forum is able to accept attachments that large if you felt inclined to post the save. no problems if you don't. just thought i'd let you know that i think the limit to attach is 2MB (i may be wrong about the limit but it's certainly high enough to attach it i think).
that picture is worth a thousand words dude! well done @Theryman
the scenario starts in 1895. so cleveland was at the helm then and that's why he's in there as the US leader.
and yes, ship costs are cheap so that the AI slants a little towards building them. and build them it does! i can see the point though of them being too cheap. however, for the sake of gameplay (primarily the AI), i think it's about right.
jimmygeo,
ahh - now i see why it was so long. also, the forum is able to accept attachments that large if you felt inclined to post the save. no problems if you don't. just thought i'd let you know that i think the limit to attach is 2MB (i may be wrong about the limit but it's certainly high enough to attach it i think).
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Berliner Tageblatt, Montag, 03.06.1907
Ashgabat zurückgenommen... Schwere Seegefechts in Fernost... Gudalcanal genommen...
Ashgabat was retaken by our forces. All Russian forces surrendered, and with Surgut another Russian town was captured. The offensive continues.
In the Far East there was a series of fights between British light forces and German ships. Near Singapore our Uboats claim 2 British destroyer and TR sunk another destroyer damaged. In the Coral sea 6 further British destroyer were sunk by our fleet. And in Europe at the Skagerrak two British dreadnoughts were sunk and another off Plymouth. Especially noteable are here the actions of U 9, which was credited by the Kaiser with the Iron Cross. The commander, Kapitänleutnant Weddigen got the Pour-le-Mérite for his actions.
The war in the colonies is mainly stagnating. However today news came that Guadalcanal and the Canarian island were taken.
Dienstag, 04.06.1907
Amsterdam bombardiert
Amsterdam was bombed by a British battleship destroying the harbour defences. Also U 6 and U 69 were sunk due to British destroyer. However our armoured cruiser SMS Kaiserin Augusta was able to sink an attacking destroyer, despite being damaged badly.
Adler
Ashgabat zurückgenommen... Schwere Seegefechts in Fernost... Gudalcanal genommen...
Ashgabat was retaken by our forces. All Russian forces surrendered, and with Surgut another Russian town was captured. The offensive continues.
In the Far East there was a series of fights between British light forces and German ships. Near Singapore our Uboats claim 2 British destroyer and TR sunk another destroyer damaged. In the Coral sea 6 further British destroyer were sunk by our fleet. And in Europe at the Skagerrak two British dreadnoughts were sunk and another off Plymouth. Especially noteable are here the actions of U 9, which was credited by the Kaiser with the Iron Cross. The commander, Kapitänleutnant Weddigen got the Pour-le-Mérite for his actions.
The war in the colonies is mainly stagnating. However today news came that Guadalcanal and the Canarian island were taken.
Dienstag, 04.06.1907
Amsterdam bombardiert
Amsterdam was bombed by a British battleship destroying the harbour defences. Also U 6 and U 69 were sunk due to British destroyer. However our armoured cruiser SMS Kaiserin Augusta was able to sink an attacking destroyer, despite being damaged badly.
Adler
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
I agree that the British have far too many Torpedo Boats. But I've had a friend who saw my current game with Germany, and he said I had far too many dreadnoughts. I beg to differ, just because I line the English Channel with stacks of 8-10 dreadnoughts in every square doesn't mean I have too many of them. Also, this is just my English Channel Fleet, I still have the North Sea Fleet, the Carribbean Fleet, the Oceanic Fleet, the Gold Coast Fleet, the Red Sea Fleet, and the East Africa Fleet. Each of which has a minimum of 5 ships (the African and Red Sea Fleets are relatively weak, I'm currently bolstering their numbers).
Theryman
King
It is not like they are very threatening, Tank_Guy, but it is annoying when a stack of 20 of them bombards a much stronger ship to next to nothing and then suicide 5 or 6 against it to finish it off.
cubsfan6506
Got u
My one criticism of this scenario is there is no reason not to build dreadknaughts. To branch out to other kinds of boats.
El Justo
Deity
all of those British TBs are in there simply b/c it's what their naval OoB was in Jan 1895. now, keep in mind that i actually left a few of them out or else there'd be even more of them in there
as for the utility of the other ships in comparison to the BBs:
it's all in the movement points for each ship. the BBs are not geared towards convoy duty while the CAs, CLs, and even the BCs are designed to act as escort/scout units. so there is indeed a reason to build the other ship classes especially if you want to guard your precious TR units.
as for the utility of the other ships in comparison to the BBs:
it's all in the movement points for each ship. the BBs are not geared towards convoy duty while the CAs, CLs, and even the BCs are designed to act as escort/scout units. so there is indeed a reason to build the other ship classes
especially if you want to guard your precious TR units.Stazro
Prince
So what? A fleet of TBs IS able to sink a much stronger ship, so why shouldn't this happen in game? Numbers is the strength of small ships, so let them use it.
Another point towards building other ships is: You can't build battleships everywhere and when you operate a huge colonial empire from a couple of european cities you will see building cruisers and destroyer is absolutely necessary to stay in control of your coasts and shipping routes.
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