SCENARIO: The Napoleonic Wars

If you want to expand the scenario, it would be possible to get picture for late 18th century. With the circa 1805 and circa 1812-1815 pictures I have provide, that could give 3 upgrades.

Here is an example of late 18th century unit with a russian musketeer
 
I see that you've been busy. ;)

If you would, try and find more of the army sizes (like in your post before your last post) for as many countries as you can. That kind of info is quite helpful, and prevents me from having to dig it up. :)
 
Ok, here's the army list of that time, with the number of regiment. Note that the number may have changed during the war : I don't have figure for every year. I have given the date when I have it.

FRANCE. Total : Infantry: 223, Cavalry: 77
Infantry :
- Light infantry : 32 (1804)
- Line infantry : 112 (1806, 135 (1813).
No grenadier regiment, as grenadier were mixed in line infantry regiment.
Cavalry :
- Cuirassier : 12 (1806) 14 (1809)
- Carabiniers : 2
- Dragoon : 30
- Chasseurs : 15
- Chevau-léger lancer : 6 (created in 1811)
- Hussars : 10 (1806), 12(1810)
Guard infantry (number changed a lot during the war):
- Grenadiers : up to 50 in 1813!
- Chasseurs : up to 20
Guard cavalry:
- Horse grenadier : 2
- Chasseur : 1
- Chevaux leger lancer : 2 (3 in 1812 only )
- Dragoon : 1
- Scout : 3

ENGLAND. Total : Infantry : 107, Cavalry : 34
Infantry :
- Guard : 3
- Line : 96 ( 7 highlanders)
- Lignt infantry : 6 (1 highlanders)
- Riflemen : 2
Cavalry :
- Hussar : 0, 4(1811, created from light dragoon)
- Light dragoon : 19, 15 (1811)
- Life guard : 2
- Horse guard : 1
- Dragoon guard : 7
- Dragoon : 5

You already have Austria and Russia. I have few info about Prussia.
 
PRUSSIA total : Infantry : 60, Cavalry : 19 to 35
Infantry
- total 60 (no details, sorry)
Cavalry, 1792-1807
- Cuirassiers : 13
- Dragoon : 12
- Hussar : 10
Cavalry,1808-1812
- Cuirassiers : 4
- Dragoon: 6
- Hussars : 7
- Ulhan : 2
Cavalry, 1813-1815
- Guard : 4
- Cuirassiers : 4
- Dragoon : 8
- Hussars : 12
- Ulhan : 4

SPAIN :
Infantry :
- Line regiment : 35
- Light regiment : 12
Cavalry :
- Dragoon : 8
- Line : 13

POLAND (Grand Duchy of Warsaw)
Infantry
- 22 regiments
Cavalry :
- Chasseur : 3
- Hussar : 2
- Cuirassiers : 1
- Ulhan : 14

BAVARIA
Infantry :
- line : 11
- light : 6
Cavalry :
- Dragoon : 2 (0 from 1807)
- Chevau-leger : 4 (6 from 1807)
- Hussar : 2 (from 1813)
- Ulhan : 1 (from 1813)
 
Thanks for the info, that will be quite useful. :thumbs up smiley that CFC doesn't have: ;)

Originally posted by Steph
Trip, how do you plan to model the armies? Make one unit for each regiment?
In that case, I can give you the name of all the regiments for major countries, and some of the minors.
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I'm not sure about that, since some of the larger countries had a massive amount of regiments, and replicating that exactly in the game would make the scenario unmanageable (I only had about 60 units for each side in my Civil War scenario). However, those numbers will allow me to get accurate strengths, so thanks for that. :)
 
Steph, I was wondering if you had any good pictures of Austrian Imperial Guard and Light Infantry? I'm having my unit guy do all of Austria, so it would be mighty useful. :)
 
Picture 4 of my latest Austria picture is light infantry.
Austria had no guard.

BTW, could we get preview of the units done by your unit guy?

I've tried to download it from Apolyton's forum, but I cannot see the FLC with FLICSTER. I can open it, but not see it.

And a question : do you want to keep civ specific colors? If I were you, I would forget about that, and use only historical colors. Civ colors could be used, but only for things like plumet or colar.

And isn't it a thumb up smiley? :goodjob:
 
From the apolyton forum :

Once you finish that, you can start on the Austrian (German) Grenadier unit (I figure I'd might as well get 1 country, Austria out of the way first). Make the jacket the civ-specific color again (and everything else the identical coloring present on the uniform, if possible), and don't forget the funky hat and the fact that he has no bayonet.


I don't agree with that NEVER use jacket of pants color as civ-specific color, for any unit. I can tell you what parts of the uniform changed with each regiment. This should be the only part of the uniform that can change with the civ. Austrian troops are always white, except Hungarian who have a blue trousers.

That civ-specific color part should be:
- The colar
- the shoulder strap
- the cuff
- the bottom of the jacket (look at my first Austrian picture. Figure number 1-3 have a brown specific color, figure 2-4 have blue).

If you want, I can help with your graphic guy. Give him my email, and ask him if he can send me some picture of his job, so I can comment.
 
LouLong, I will answer in English for the others. If you want to use French, send me an email or a PM.
The question was "Did I found everything in Liliane and Fred Funcken book?"

Answer is : almost.

All the pictures here come from this book. The army list also, except for Prussian Cavalry, where I've used an Osprey book, men-at-arms serie, "Prussian Cavalry of the Napoleonic wars", tome 1 (1792-1807), tome 2 (1807-1815).
 
Originally posted by Steph
From the apolyton forum :

Once you finish that, you can start on the Austrian (German) Grenadier unit (I figure I'd might as well get 1 country, Austria out of the way first). Make the jacket the civ-specific color again (and everything else the identical coloring present on the uniform, if possible), and don't forget the funky hat and the fact that he has no bayonet.


I don't agree with that NEVER use jacket of pants color as civ-specific color, for any unit. I can tell you what parts of the uniform changed with each regiment. This should be the only part of the uniform that can change with the civ. Austrian troops are always white, except Hungarian who have a blue trousers.

That civ-specific color part should be:
- The colar
- the shoulder strap
- the cuff
- the bottom of the jacket (look at my first Austrian picture. Figure number 1-3 have a brown specific color, figure 2-4 have blue).

If you want, I can help with your graphic guy. Give him my email, and ask him if he can send me some picture of his job, so I can comment.
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That's the way I had it before, but then I recognized that the main problem with that is that Austria's civ-specific color is white. Do you really think that every Austrian Line infantry unit should be entirely white, except for the musket, backpack and hat? While I'm highly encouraging historical accuracy in this scenario, I have to cut some corners for the sake of usability. I understand what you mean, but I really have no choice. If you have a suggestion for a better color for the collar, shoulder-strap, cuff and the bottom of the jacket as a more representative color for the Austrians, then let me know, but I really don't want the entire uniform to be white. I think the 'white-ness' of it already is what distinguishes it from most other countries uniforms (and that's mostly what made me make Austria white).

I'll give him your email, so you two can discuss some stuff, but make sure you run everything by me first... stuff like that may not be entirely accurate, but I have to work within constraints. :(
 
Oh, you mean that Austria civ-specific color is white, and as the unit will be used only by Austria, then you will get a white unit?
That's an interesting solution.
But I still thing civ -specific colors should be used for other part of the uniform. Because not all Austrian units are white (look at the light infantry).

My personnal choice would be to completly forgot civ specific colors for such unit : with the specific Austrian hat, nobody will mistake it with French or Russia!

Otherwise, you could use yellow (main color of Austrian flag)
 
You see the thing about that is how many other nations used Austrian troops? I'm willing to bet none, so under 'normal' circumstances the uniform will always look exactly how it did historically anyways. If someone else had been using Austrian troops (uniforms included), then it may have looked differently. ;)
 
Yes, I understand. But Austrian Line infantry is white, Light Infantry (Jaeger is Dark Grey), Hussar are red and blue, Dragoon green, etc.

So whatever the civ color you choose, you won't be able to find one that will go for all the units. That's why I suggest not to use civ specific color at all. Just ask the graphic guy to "copy" the picture.

Another good reason to use civ color for collar of cuff is that if someone one to use your units outside the scenario, for his own purpose, then he can do it, using other civ-specific color than the one you selected for the scenario, without spoiling everything.
 
You have a point on the different color uniforms part... I may have to think a bit about how to do those.

As far as being able to use them outside of the scenario, you have a point there as well, but Austria's color is white (no colors are changing at this point ;)), and making the cuffs/collar/etc. the civ color would again present the problem of a nearly entirely white uniform for this scenario (which, call me selfish, is all that really matters, IMO ;)), and if it had identical coloring historically with no civ-specific coloring at all, then it wouldn't be usable in other mods anyways.
 
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