Science Discussion 3A: What techs are we willing to trade?
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Bengeance
Civ Retributioner
I think the real issue is what makes a "public discussion"?
If only 5 or 6 people participate does that count? Should we be polling every decision that an official makes? If all it takes is 1 person suggesting a course of action to overrule the elected official why even bother with elections and just have the censor post polls for every decision that gets made?
If only 5 or 6 people participate does that count? Should we be polling every decision that an official makes? If all it takes is 1 person suggesting a course of action to overrule the elected official why even bother with elections and just have the censor post polls for every decision that gets made?
donsig
Low level intermediary
Bengeance said:
Once again, yes, if only 5 or 6 people participate it certainly counts! No, we do not have to poll every decision but officials must be paying attention to what it is the people are saying. Officials should not be making decisions that run counter to desires citizens have made known through discussion. If 5 or 6 people say we should do A and no one else says we should not do A and no one says we should do B then we should do A. If an official goes and does B or C under these circumstances then the official should be removed from office through a judicial process.
If the official thinks A is bad then he or she should be posting his or her reasons why it is bad and (of course) should put the issue to a formal poll. If some citizens are saying do A and some are saying do B then that should be polled - the offical should not just throw up his or her hands and say, *the citizens are undecided so I get to do what I want*.
And, just incase anyone wants to discuss the techs we need, I still tink iron working is more important right now than math.
GeorgeOP
RF Bleachers
I think the official may do whatever he wants. The first Science Min set a precendent about this. However, if it is radically against what the people want the people may refuse to elect him again or remove him from office.
Min open discussion to find what the people want, so that she/he may remain in the good graces of the people.
Min open discussion to find what the people want, so that she/he may remain in the good graces of the people.
robboo
Deity
donsig said:
me too
I need more swordsman than I do other units..
Sigma
Censor
Since the actual discussion of science got lost within this thread, and I said I would do so several hours ago, I've posted a poll on this topic. Click here to get to the poll.
donsig
Low level intermediary
GeorgeOP said:
So, where were the citizens when the first Science Minister was doing what he (or she) wanted? Electing people to office and then letting them run things is a sure way to lower participation. Why should citizens do anything other than vote once a month if our elected officials are going to make all the decisions?
GeorgeOP
RF Bleachers
The first discussion had to do with do we pursue Religion or not. The thread and the poll both showed that the slim majority didn't want Religion, but the main argument against it was because we didn't start out with the first Religion tech. In the orders post, it said if we pop a hut and get that tech in the first 10 turns, to switch to the Religion techs. People got upset that they hadn't voted for that. But the MoS was listening to everyone, since it seemed that there were no other arguments against the Religion techs. The MoS was actually able to place orders that followed the wishes of both plans.
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