Sea luxuries missing?

[liv]

Virtually none of my games see any whales or pearls anymore. I have started a lot of games and played some but no sea luxuries. What is happening? Did they become scarce?

ETA
So on reddit I found a post of someone having this problem and someone answered:
The map generator was changed so that sea resources and land resources are in different tables (they were previously in the same). Any map generating mod you have from before the patch will only generate land resources. If it's improperly updated it may only generate fish and crabs as well, since luxuries are different too.

So is there a fix? Apprently this is a problem from the summer patch

PS I use no mods

 

[Archon_Wing]

They're not common but pearls at least are still around. Random SS

 

[liv]

Yeah I have seem them on other people's games. And if I load their games the luxuries will be there but just do not show up when I start a game

 

[Archon_Wing]

Luxuries tend to be really concentrated though. It's possible they just aren't in your part of then world.

Then again you're not really missing too much as sea starts usually aren't too great anyways.

 

[liv]

I am a warmongerer I do see the whole planet
And I love to play Norway and sea luxuries would be great once in awhile. And the new Indonesia makes them good as well (and then there is Auckland)

OK trying to think about how this information about "separate tables" may be related to my issue.
Question: I am wondering for those of you who DO see sea luxuries, do you use check the Abundant resources.
I do. And now I thinking that perhaps checking that option prevents the sea luxuries from firing. (I will test this)

Update: So I solved this problem. I think.
It was indeed selecting "Abundant Resources" that prevented sea luxuries from showing up. As soon as I tried games without that option, a whale appeared. I guess this makes this a possible bug.

 

[Tiger Genocide]

I am a warmongerer I do see the whole planet
And I love to play Norway and sea luxuries would be great once in awhile. And the new Indonesia makes them good as well (and then there is Auckland)

OK trying to think about how this information about "separate tables" may be related to my issue.
Question: I am wondering for those of you who DO see sea luxuries, do you use check the Abundant resources.
I do. And now I thinking that perhaps checking that option prevents the sea luxuries from firing. (I will test this)

Update: So I solved this problem. I think.
It was indeed selecting "Abundant Resources" that prevented sea luxuries from showing up. As soon as I tried games without that option, a whale appeared. I guess this makes this a possible bug.

Holy crap that explains it! I always play on abundant. No wonder I have not seen a single sea luxury in any of my games. I always play abundant because if I play to warmonger, I need oil for tanks and abundant gives me the best chance to get at least one oil.

Yep definitely a bug.

 

[ravennaux]

Has this been verified? Haven't seen sea resources at all since patch.

 

[liv]

Has this been verified? Haven't seen sea resources at all since patch.

Do you select abundant resources when starting? From my researching this issue I saw that some mods also prevented sea resources from showing

 

[ravennaux]

Yes and certainly no sea resources then....,but using Gedemon's maps again no sea resources though no abundant was selected. By any chance have you a list of mods that may cause this? I love the mods and use quite a few.

 

[Gedemon]

Well, I can tell you that normal resources + YnAMP does produce sea luxuries, in your specific case the problem may be an incompatibility with another mod.

I'll test abundant with/without mods.

 

[ravennaux]

Thank you, You are the Cartographer Royal of Civ,sir

 

[civworker]

I haven't had any sea luxuries since RF patch and I have no mods and always play on sparse.
I tried standard the other day and immediately had whales in multiple locations

I always play fractal or pangea. Also did archipelago for achievement. But no sea luxuries

So not just an issue with abundant