separate wonders

[mtakil]

Berlin Wall is a bad idea. We already have Great Wall and Wall Street. Too much confusing..

 

[henry k c]

No offense, but this would make the civ wonder system the same as in empire earth. Also, each civ wouldn't be able to build more that 1 or 2 wonders.

 

[aaronpark]

The berlin wall wouldn't make a good one but unlike what "henry k c" said you could still build just as many if not more wonders.

 

[Rittarx the Bol]

It is an interesting idea and raises the question of how specific is too specific? The unique units were implemented and I think added something to the mix without really throwing off the scale of the game. Could the devs do the same with unique wonders? That is hard to say. I think I like the idea of Government/Religious/Resource specific wonders instead. It would allow for a more 'what if'(as Turner puts it) scernario. The Iron Works springs to mind.

 

[Himalia]

Its a nice idea that certain wonders ar only allowed by certain nations. Great for a scenario or if you really like the sound of it you could tinker with the game and probably do it yourself. Infact it would be pretty straight forward thinking about it. However as a permenent setting that you hav no say in i would be against it as the point of the gam is not to follow histoy to the letter but make you own civilization and see how the world folds out. We just use known civilizations as its a common gound to wok from.

 

[float]

Great idea of small wonders for particular civ. the game would be more instresting.
like:
Colosseum : roman
taj mahal : india
great wall : china
Berlin wall : germany
statue of liberty : America
pyramind : egypt and Aztecs(well aztecs pyramids look different from those in egypts )
and so...
well how about that ..

 

[Himalia]

I think they call them Ziggurats.

Theres plenty of scope for racial specfic wonders and there not tricky to add. Ive lost count of the amount of wonders that i use on the multiplayer games i play. Its gotta be over 100 or at least close.

Actually all those ones you just mentioned apart from the Berlin Wall i use anyway. Not sure what the Berlin wall would do tho so until i can think or someone else thinks of a good idea ill omit that one for now.

 

[Shujaa]

Actually I like the idea of attribute specific Small Wonders instead, that would make more sense. eg Militaristic would have something (such as Heroic Epic), Industrious would have another and so on.

 

[Himalia]

How about putting something like that in as an as well as. But not instead of.

(using the word as 3 times within 6 words looks wrong but it makes sence i hope)

 

[Turner]

Um, yeah.... Lemme just go get another beer....

No, it makes sense. As with a lot of things, I'd like to see them available, but not necessarily as part of the game.

 

[WackenOpenAir]

The berlin wall:

All cities on the same continent are immune to cultural conversion.

 

[Tomoyo]

The berlin wall:

All cities on the same continent are immune to cultural conversion.

Or "puts a police station in every city on the continent", since yours is impossible with the Civ3 editor.

 

[henry k c]

Or "puts a police station in every city on the continent", since yours is impossible with the Civ3 editor.

East Germany was communist when it was built, and the main effect of police stations is a decrease in war weariness, which doesn't exist in communism, so that would be unrealistic, however since there is no other alternative, your idea is probably the best.

 

[float]

The berlin wall:

All cities on the same continent are immune to cultural conversion.

Or "puts a police station in every city on the continent", since yours is impossible with the Civ3 editor.

well both the ideas are good but as henry k c told that east germany was communist and war weariness is not of a concern in communism so i dont mind going with wackenopenair's idea.

 

[aaronpark]

How about civ specific technologies in "civ V" that would be cool you know like hyroglyphics(egypt) or astronomy(mayans)

 

[Pyrite]

I disagree with the usefulness of all that, for one, it's far too complex, and I've always liked to play civ on a world map and re-write history, personally.

 

[aaronpark]

I disagree with the usefulness of all that, for one, it's far too complex, and I've always liked to play civ on a world map and re-write history, personally.

You are right it would be confusing but i have an idea for a new wonder "the rossetta stone" it would increase culture and scientif research.

 

[FinnMcCool]

How about putting something like that in as an as well as. But not instead of.

(using the word as 3 times within 6 words looks wrong but it makes sence i hope)

I once read an interesting example:
John while James had had had had had had had had had had had the better reception

And the task was to put punctuation in this string to make it grammatically correct.

The correct form is,

John, while James had had "had", had had "had had." "Had had" had had the better reception.

It was an example of strange grammar that actually came up in a debate on the use of "had" vs the use of "had had..."

Truth is stranger than fiction...


BTW, I'm in favor of Civ-specific Wonders or SW's. Stick a new strategic resource called "German Nation" and put it on the German Starting point, and make its icon nearly invisible.

 

[tao]

the berlin wall for germany

and Guantanamo for America

 

[aaronpark]

i have said many times i don't think the berlin wall should be one i have retracted this many times
I'm sorry if i've offended anyone by putting it there