SGOTM 07 - Xteam

[Frederiksberg]

Asoka has marble, so we can go ahead and trade marble.

I say we wait 2 turns until we have built the HE. That way we can let Asoka keep his marble should he want to build HE himself.

There's no reason not to go ahead and lay seige to Washington with the whole cannon and one of the wounded bombard ones, plus two grenadiers, while the rest of our units heal on the deer. We can get there in two turns, and at that point ask Asoka to assist us (not too soon, since we don't want him losing units across a river (as leif points out) against culturally defended cities

.

Yes, the fully healed cannon should be able to defend the stack of siege units.

Move a longbow(s) on the silver into the city to combat WW if needed, once we start fighting Wash again.

..and the archer on the marble.

Once chopping is completed, or almost so, we can send a worker to scout England.

No need for that - we can scout London with the returning caravel and York is more or less on the way to Washington so a unit coming out of Beijing could pass by. I'd rather have our workers pre-build work shops on top of our villages and towns. It will take 35 worker turns to accomplish this.

 

[Frederiksberg]

There are 6 LB's in Washington and this means we may need a few more units to wear it down a bit. Instead of upgrading Archers to Grens, perhaps we should consider upgrading a couple of Archers to Cho-Ko-Nu's. They provide collateral damage should we need it. Even more important, they can be upgraded to Grens, where LB's cannot, only to Rifles. And the upgrade is nearly half the cost of Grens. They could give us some additional firepower!

The problem with Chokos are that they have low survival rate against longbows and right now survival is important to maintain a stack of decent size. We could probably use a choko against Elisabeth if it turns out that she has many maces.

Let's hope someone does soon. Is there anything else we can do to influence this? It may be a 1 or two turn research project otherwise?

I think Banking is around 1.5 turns of research so no fancy stuff is needed. If we can't get it in a trade we can just do the research ourselves.

 

[Frederiksberg]

I'll look for some gpt from copper and marble.

Don't trade marble before HE!

 

[leif erikson]

The problem with Chokos are that they have low survival rate against longbows and right now survival is important to maintain a stack of decent size. We could probably use a choko against Elisabeth if it turns out that she has many maces.

Yes, but we would not use them to attack unless the city is "properly" prepared by the use of Cannon first. We take out the more powerful units with the Grens and clean up with the Choko's. They are capable in that role. What is important is that they are cheap upgrades to fill a gap between Archers and Grens and still be useful. Then, as we can get our hands on some cash, they can be upgraded to Grens or Rifles.

 

[Mad Professor]

I’ve played another 4.5 turns. America is no more. I was quite pleased with only 4.5 turns in between taking NY and Washington. Asoka was more enthusiastic to get units in there than I thought he would be. I had to rush to keep up with him and stop him suiciding too many of them before I softened up the defences for him! He went straight in there immediately! (And I didn’t have to ask).

Anyhow – here’s the blow by blow description of these turns from my notes:

I open the file, it’s T142, 640AD
Before ending the turn, I:
Get peace with Alex – he pays 30 gold
Trade copper to Cathy for 4gpt
We now have WW of 2 but no negs for fighting brothers and sisters in the faith. Beijing at 21 happy, 20 unhappy.
I decide against the archer to chok upgrade against Washington since he has just lbows and cats. It's something we can do against Liz maybe?

IBT:
Louis asks us to DW on Cyrus. I refuse.
Louis has banking but won’t trade
Beijing finishes the theatre, and is now 22 happy, 20 unhappy
Asoka cleaned up American units in India, killing the cats and a lbow. He now has a WE, canon and wounded canon across the river from Washington
There are 6lbows and 2 cats in Washington
The copper and gold in western India are plundered.
Now 2 turns to physics
Asoka’s fleet has moved back west to near Pasargadae
Liz’s unit north of Sparta are getting cleaned up by Alex
Asoka is now building a Grenadier in Bombay

T143 660AD
Promote CR2 gren to combat 1
HE now available, so switch production to that
Chop 2 forests, HE will be done in 1 turn as expected
CR2com1 gren attacks cow herding lbow at 93% and barely just wins. 0.4 strength left. Ouch! At least he won.
Liz now has 1 xbow, 2 WE, 1 mace, 3 lbow in Athens along with 1 pike north of Sparta and 2 WE , 1 mace, and 1 cat 3 tiles north of Athens heading south
Sell music to Caesar for 50 gold

IBT:
Beijing finishes HE, starts gren (1 turn only because of hammers left over from HE)
Asoka’s fleet now near Bagdad, heading west
Saladin completes the Spiral minaret
Cyrus makes peace with Louis
WW in Beijing now at 3. 22 happy, 21 unhappy
Washington now has 8 lbows, a worker and settler. No cats, which means he attacked Asoka with them and lost
Asoka has bombarded Washington to 36%, and has 2 wounded canons east of Washington and 3 grens and a canon on the hill to the SE of Washington. He has lost the WE. Probably attacked with it and lost, the idiot. I’ve got to get in there faster than planned and make sure he doesn’t suicide too many units.
Banking still not available for trade but only 1 turn to physics as we are, so I’ve got to ask Asoka to change tech study

T144 680AD
Ask Asoka to study banking, he agrees. It says 4 turns
Physics now 2 turns away for us as we are studying alone
Liz’s forces according to our spies:
London: 4 caravels and 2 galleys in the city or nearby, 3 lbows, 1 xbow, 2 maces, 1 pike, 3 cats
Athens: 3 lbows, 3 WE, 1 mace, 1 cat
York: 1 musket, 2 lbows, 1 pike, plus a xbow on the iron to the west of York.
She has 1 xbow, 1 WE and 1 mace in the forest SE of Athens heading into Greece
Move 3 strongest canons to tile NW of Washington to help Asoka, rest of units on deer tile stay put with medic to heal
Move 2 wkrs to chop forest near ruins of NY
Move 1 lbow from silver hill in to Beijing
Move 1 archer from marble hill into Beijing.

IBT:
Kublai Khan peace treaty expires
Beijing finishes gren, starts canon
Asoka bombards Washington to 12% and attacks city with gren killing a lbow and with a canon, losing it.
7 lbows now in Washington.
Beijing at 25 happy, 22 unhappy
Asoka’s fleet is near Medina

T145 700AD
Asok a now only 2 turns to banking. He picked up some beakers somewhere
Liz’s forces:
1 musket south of Washington
London: 2 maces, 1 xbow, 3 lbows, 1 pike, 4 cats, with 2 galleys and 4 caravels in or nearby city
Athens: 4 WE 3lbows, 1 mace, 1 cat
York: 2 lbows, 1 pike, 2 cars plus 1 xbow on iron
Her power is increasing significantly now.
I bombard Washington to 0% with weakest canon
Attack Washington with barrage canon (aiming for max collateral damage) @ 93.9% and just sneak in a win. Ouch. Canon down to 0.5 strength.
Attack Washington with acc/CR1 canon @89% and again only just win. Canon down to 1.7 strength Coffee doesn't do it like Coopers obviously.
Now just 5 lbows in Washington each with 3.3 strength. Just one a Garr1. Cultural defences down to zero. Asoka can’t take it this next turn but that’s the best I can do, and his attacks this coming turn run a much better chance of him not losing units because I’ve barged in there!
Move strongest gren and canon up from deer tile to protect wounded stack

IBT:
Monty wants us to DW on Hatty. I refuse
We get physics. Choose banking (1 turn)
Beijing finishes canon, starts another
GS born in Beijing
We have Uranium in ice east of Beijing
2 lbows @2.8 strength left in Washington. Asoka has lost a canon and killed 3 lbows and now has 1 canon and 4 grens near Washington.
Asoka is now building a hindu missionary in Bombay! And a drydock in Delhi
WW now up to 4
Liz’s power continues upwards
Capac now has banking, but no-one willing to trade, not even Fred

T146 720AD
Liz’s forces:
London: 2 maces, 1 xbow, 3 lbows, 1 pike, 5 cats, Great Prophet
Athens: 3 lbows, 3 WE, 1 mace, 1 cat
York: 2 lbows, 1 pike, 3 cats plus a xbow on the iron
Athens no longer in revolt
Return our Caravel to chinese waters and upgrade to frigate for 110 gold
Attack Washington with gren (Canons are too weak to risk). Win. Now just the one lbow with 2.8 strength left with no cultural defences Asoka should capture!
Move field hospital to tile NW of Washington so canons have a leg up healing

IBT:
We get banking, start on replaceable parts
Asoka takes Washington
America ceases to exist
Liz and Cyrus both have economics already (won't trade of course)
Asoka wants to research Constitution, but I ask him to change to replaceable parts. He agrees
Asoka fleet arrives back in Delhi
WW to 5, but that will disappear immediately next turn because war is finished
Asoka already has Theatre on the production list for Washington
There's a bit of money scattered around among various civs we can milk if necessary.

So a little discussion required. We need to hit Liz real soon because she’s not sending any more units to Greece and her power is steadily increasing. But our units need to heal – then again, we could save a turn getting to York if we declared in the next couple of turns before the English culture expands near Washington. York is the most lightly defended city. If we declared quickly and bombarded, Asoka might come and take it in two or three turns once his units in Washington are healed. Our “navy” is now a frigate, but Liz has 6 boats. One frigate might be pushed to defend our waters. What think you? We have a quite adequate stack near Washington, but it needs a turn or two of peace with that medic. Comments? I want to get stuck into Liz real quick, but need your advice on the best way to do that.

My turn set has so far gone 12.5 turns.

 

[Mad Professor]

Oops. Forgot to put in a copy of the save for you all to look at.

Here it is, it's right at the beginning of the turn:

View attachment SGOTM07 AD-0740.Civ4SavedGame

 

[leif erikson]

Nice work accelerating the Washington attack!

Attacking three cities is going to be tough on WW. But it would seem that we have to do so soon. She can research either Chemistry or Rifling!
We have a few units that are not badly wounded, perhaps a turn of healing and then off to bombard York?

We should keep producing Cannon and upgrade some Archers to Grens as we have the cash. Asoka is back to 100% research, so I think we can safely ask for two-thirds to three-quarters of his gold. He has 339, so let's ask for about 250? He'll get more when he takes York.

Once we take York, our LB on the Silver can return to Beijing to make a .

The question I'm wrestling with is how best to take Lizzie. The road to London is long and, with the forces in Athens, exposes our flank at York. We may need to build the Globe to free up enough forces to cover York while we head for London? While Asoka is gaining in strength, he has only 7 Grens and 8 LB's. And, of course, he is building Cannon and Drydock... Hopefully, he'll switch to Grens in Delhi.

 

[ShannonCT]

Looking good MP.

I'm not sure about declaring war on Lizzy this turn. Our stack only has a few fully healed units, and Lizzy has the units to destroy our stack if she wants to. Asoka wont be much help for several turns either. I think we may have to wait. I suggest we park our stack on our western silver. From there, we can reach York in 2 turns and not be attacking across a river. Meanwhile, we can MM Beijing to work a mine instead of a windmill. This will give us 2 cannons in 2 turns. We can also upgrade 2 archers to grens if we ask for gold from Asoka et al. 4 more strength-12 units should make our stack pretty invincible. When the last cannon has reached the silver, we can declare.

Once we've taken York, we can probably split our stack and go for London and Athens simultaneously. The frigate can bombard to speed things up. Lizzy doesn't have Astro or Chem yet so she shouldn't have any frigates before she's dead. Her caravels and galleys will probably just sit there.

Instead of trading our marble for GPT, maybe we should get our whales back from Cyrus and trade him marble for dyes. We should also ask Asoka for his Ivory. He has plenty of happiness and wont get much WW. When we declare on Lizzy, we're going to lose our western silver connection. Not sure if we'll lose the silver we're using or the one we're trading to Asoka, but watch that. We might need to cancel Asoka's silver. And as mentioned, we can move our Lbows back to Beijing for more happiness.

I suggest MP plays through Rifling and the York attack.

 

[Frederiksberg]

Good work MP. The war is progressing faster than expected!

I'm not sure about declaring war on Lizzy this turn. Our stack only has a few fully healed units, and Lizzy has the units to destroy our stack if she wants to. Asoka wont be much help for several turns either. I think we may have to wait. I suggest we park our stack on our western silver. From there, we can reach York in 2 turns and not be attacking across a river. Meanwhile, we can MM Beijing to work a mine instead of a windmill. This will give us 2 cannons in 2 turns. We can also upgrade 2 archers to grens if we ask for gold from Asoka et al. 4 more strength-12 units should make our stack pretty invincible. When the last cannon has reached the silver, we can declare.

Sounds like a healthy way forward. It would mean DOW'ing Elisabeth in turn 150. When the 2nd cannon we build reaches the western silver in T150 it has one movement point left so that it can move with the stack when we DOW. Would it make sense to start the attack one turn earlier by moving any fully healed forces off the silver hill? Sending a few cannons to bombard may save a turn on the capture of York. The first cannon and any upgraded archers should be able to participate in this stack.

Can we simply ask the "friendly" civs for gold or is there limitations to this?

Instead of trading our marble for GPT, maybe we should get our whales back from Cyrus and trade him marble for dyes. We should also ask Asoka for his Ivory. He has plenty of happiness and wont get much WW. When we declare on Lizzy, we're going to lose our western silver connection. Not sure if we'll lose the silver we're using or the one we're trading to Asoka, but watch that. We might need to cancel Asoka's silver. And as mentioned, we can move our Lbows back to Beijing for more happiness.

Good idea - we need the happy face more than the gpt. If our western silver is pillaged I'm quite sure that we will loose our silver resource but we can get it back by canceling our silver for incense deal with Asoka. We can still get the incense by simply asking for it.

The question I'm wrestling with is how best to take Lizzie. The road to London is long and, with the forces in Athens, exposes our flank at York. We may need to build the Globe to free up enough forces to cover York while we head for London?

I we follow Shannons plan our York attack force will be placed 1 NW of York - only two steps from a forest 1 SE of London. If we split our stack we may be able to prevent any units from attacking from Athens. I hope we can postpone the Globe a little longer since it takes 7-8 turns to build and we don't have gold to upgrade all that many units.

 

[leif erikson]

Can we simply ask the "friendly" civs for gold or is there limitations to this?

There is no penalty for asking. It will be up to the RNG to decide if we get anything, or not...

Good idea - we need the happy face more than the gpt. If our western silver is pillaged I'm quite sure that we will loose our silver resource but we can get it back by canceling our silver for incense deal with Asoka. We can still get the incense by simply asking for it.

Yes, I like this idea as well.

If we follow Shannons plan our York attack force will be placed 1 NW of York - only two steps from a forest 1 SE of London. If we split our stack we may be able to prevent any units from attacking from Athens. I hope we can postpone the Globe a little longer since it takes 7-8 turns to build and we don't have gold to upgrade all that many units.

Not sure we will be strong enough in units to accomplish this? Lizzie had a fair number or War Elephants in Athens, iirc. Many will die, but a few may score, not good for us. Plus, I wonder how Asoka will react to having to go to two different places to attack. I'm not sure his army is large enough to expect him to be capable yet?

 

[ShannonCT]

I suggest we park our stack on our western silver.

I checked on the mechanics of unit healing and realized it's better to keep our stack where it is until turn 150, when we attack. Our stack will heal by 60% if it stays put, and only 50% if it moves right now. On turn 150, we can move the stack to the silver, declare war, and move back into English territory. All cannons and gren will have at least 10 strength by then. Any unit that sits next to York for one turn during the bombardment round will heal an additional 15%. So any cannon that's not fully healed should only bombard if it has to.

 

[Cactus Pete]

Looking good . . . not much to add.

What about moving our units and our medic inside of Washington to heal? Would that speed healing of both our units and Asoka's?

Once we've taken York and start to move on London and Athens, we need to consider building a galleon(s) and an additional frigate to speed conquest (rather than a happiness bldg.). Once those three cities have fallen, we should be able to upgrade most of our MP archers, if we can deal with the WW (and that might give us enough land units for a time, if we don't lose many vs. England). Moving the culture slider gives 2 happiness per 10%, and that may be a better option than a happiness building, especially since we now have the efficiency of the HE.

 

[ShannonCT]

What about moving our units and our medic inside of Washington to heal? Would that speed healing of both our units and Asoka's?

A city in revolt gives the same healing rate as our own non-city territory. So it wouldn't speed healing and it would move us farther from York.

Once we've taken York and start to move on London and Athens, we need to consider building a galleon(s) and an additional frigate to speed conquest (rather than a happiness bldg.). Once those three cities have fallen, we should be able to upgrade most of our MP archers, if we can deal with the WW (and that might give us enough land units for a time, if we don't lose many vs. England). Moving the culture slider gives 2 happiness per 10%, and that may be a better option than a happiness building, especially since we now have the efficiency of the HE.

Another frigate will probably be needed. Not sure if a galleon will help. Since we need Asoka to capture cities, we can't get too far ahead of him. Rather than building galleons, it might be better to have multiple stacks operating to soften multiple cities along India's front simultaneously. For instance, after we have our stack bound for England, we might want to think about building up another stack for Cuzco. Cuzco was one of the cities we needed to get 2 border pops, and it would be good to capture it and build an academy soon.

I agree that we dont need a happiness building in the near future. With all of our MPs and Ivory and Whale available, we should rarely experience enough WW to lose productivity. The culture slider or temporary starvation should get us through those few periods at the ends of wars when WW is high. Also remember that before we get Rifling, we can still build LBs at the rate of 1 per turn, either as MPs or for gifting to Asoka.

 

[Jimmy Thunder]

Good going Mad Professor!

And good discussions from the team... we seem to have made quick work of Washington, making excellent use of the troops we have.

Keep it up! I'm enjoying the updates and the conquest progress

 

[Mad Professor]

It's little gems that are obvious only if you think of them like launching the attack on York from the western silver hill two thirds of the way through a stack move that shave turns off war efforts Nice one. It's why I like to get someone who hasn't been staring at the map for the last couple of hours to look at it and make suggestions.

Regarding Liz's navy, I've found often in the past that the AI is a real chicken when it comes to sea warfare. Park a single frigate near London and the whole lot will stay in port and hide except for the ones that are specifically guarding a resource, and they won't attack either. Usually. I might try that, though if I do, and they don't stay put, they could do some damage plundering our western sea resources before the firgate runs back there. If we're going to run two stacks after taking York to run at Athens and London simultaneously, we probably need to keep pumping out land military units real fast rather than stopping to build another frigate so that we won't be running stacks that are too small and vulnerable to getting pulverised. Do we take the "chicken navy" gamble? I'm willing, and I think it's likely to succeed. If it doesn't, the cost is lower health from plundered western sea resources before our frigate can run back and sink the English galleys. What do you think? It would mean not building another frigate for now, and just parking our existing frigate near London as soon as we declare war to keep the English navy in port.

I wanted to declare almost immediately to shorten the route to York (before English culture expands around Washington), but launching from the western silver hill as suggested partly overcomes that, gets us on the right side of the river, and allows significant healing of units not offered by the earlier declaration. I'm happy to go that way. I like it.

I would have some time to play tonight (starting about six hours from now) and I'll do so unless there's unresolved disagreement about tactics - eg the "chicken navy" gamble.

Once the two workers building the uranium mine finish in two turns, and our worker spy in England heads home, we'll have three workers available, and unless there are other pressing jobs for them, I'll do some turns on workshops so that if we decide to go that way later (it seems as yet unresolved) we have the choice to quickly make the change.

 

[ShannonCT]

I would have some time to play tonight (starting about six hours from now) and I'll do so unless there's unresolved disagreement about tactics - eg the "chicken navy" gamble.

Caravels can't pillage right? Lizzy only has 2 galleys, so if she sends them out to pillage, you can probably kill both before they reach a resource. If she sends the whole navy (very unlikely), you can build a frigate in two turns.

 

[Mad Professor]

Caravels can't pillage right? Lizzy only has 2 galleys, so if she sends them out to pillage, you can probably kill both before they reach a resource. If she sends the whole navy (very unlikely), you can build a frigate in two turns.

Right, the galleys are the only danger for plundering. The Caravels could force us to not use the water tiles, that is all. I think Liz will not abndon her own resources near London anyhow. One frigate should be able to handle two galleys unless it is very unlucky.

 

[Mad Professor]

I will begin playing again in a short while. As usual I will post a report again later tonight when I'm done.

 

[Frederiksberg]

Be careful when pre-building the work shops. Safest strategy is to cancel all worker actions each turn immediately before pressing enter. It would be helpful to the next player if you keep some kind of record of where there are work shops pre-built.

Good luck!

 

[Mad Professor]

Oh my. I need a beer. Liz is a tough nut to crack and she aint beat yet. York is in our hands, but Liz made us pay. She threw the contents of London and York at us, including about 9 cats, and we lost more than we could afford. Alex played an unwittingly important part staying at war with her, but now she has chemistry and therefore grens and frigates. We need to think carefully about the next moves. It isn’t all bad though as Liz paid dear as well, but those 8 turns were tough. Here’s my blow by blow description from my notes:

I open the file, it’s T147, 740AD
Stack NW of Washington remains stationary to heal for the most part
Liz’s forces:
London: 1 musket, 3 lbows, 2 maces, 1 xbow, 1 pike, 5 cats, great prophet
York: 2 lbows, 1 pike, 3 cats, great scientist
Athens: 3 lbows, 4 WE, 1 mace, 1 cat
What’s the bet she starts a golden age next turn?
Ask Fred to give us 70 gold. He graciously agrees
Sell Education to Hatty for her map and 50 gold

IBT:
Beijing finishes a canon, starts another
Liz starts a golden age
Monty’s and Saladin’s golden ages finish

T148 760AD
Micromanage Beijing to finish the canon in 1 turn (-2 food)
Liz’s forces:
London: 1 musket, 3 lbows, 2 maces, 1 xbow, 1 pike, 6 cats, same navy
York: 1 musket, 2 lbows, 1 pike, 3 cats
Athens: 3 lbows, 1 mace, 1 pike
She has 1 xbow west of York on iron, 1 mace on elephants 2 south of York, and 4WE’s, 1 mace, 1 cat south west of York!! What’s she doing now?
Her power is also on the increase.

IBT:
Tokugawa demands we stop trading with Hatty. I refuse
Beijing finishes a canon and starts another
Saladin has military tradition, but no horses

T149 780AD
Micromanage Beijing back to stagnant. Canon in 2 turns
Liz’s forces:
London: 3 lbows, 2 xbows, 2 maces, 1 musket, 1 pike, 6 cats, same navy
Athens: 3 lbows, 4 WE’s, 1 mace, 1 pike, 1 cat (they went back to Athens???)
York: 2 lbows, 1 xbow, 1 pike, 2 cats
She has 1 musket, 1 cat 2 north of Athens (they have left York)
Sell Cyrus uranium for 6gpt

IBT:
We get Replaceable Parts
Tokugawa wants us to DW on Capac. I refuse – I don’t want to distract Asoka!
Caesar takes Karakorum, and Mongolia is wiped out.

T150 800AD
Start studying Rifling and ask Asoka to do the same – it will be 5 turns
Liz’s forces:
London: 3 lbows, 2 xbows, 1 musket, 3 maces, 2 pikes, 6 cats, same navy
Athens: 3 lbows, 1 pike
York: 2 lbows, 1 pike, 2 cats plus 1 xbow on the iron
SE of Athens heading into Greece: 1 musket, 1 mace, 4 WE’s, 2 cats!
2 north of Athens is a xbow
DW on Liz
Move main stack to windmill hill NW of York
Move frigate to 1 north of London, bombard to 54%

IBT:
2 cats attack our stack, 1 dies, 1 withdraws Entire stack wounded
Asoka offers gift of copper. Accept
Cyrus demands we stop trading with Louis. Refuse
Beijing finishes a canon, starts another
Cyrus adopts free market and free religion
Alex adopts Bureaucracy
Fred now has economics
1 galley leaves London. Not so chicken
Asoka move two separate grens into England from Washington

T151 820AD
There’s an English xbow NW of York where I want to be. I want to go there because it’s a shorter trip to London from there. I attack the xbow with a gren @ 95% and win. Rest of stack moves to the same spot.
Sink the galley that left London.
Move frigate to chinese waters to block caravel headed that way
Cancel insence/Silver deal with Asoka (we lost contact with second silver)
Ask Asoka to give us Incense. He agrees.

IBT:
Oh my. Liz throws the kitchen sink and everything in it at us. Our stack NW of York is attacked by a motley list of 6 cats, 3 muskets, 2 maces, 1 xbow and 1 pike. That was a concerted effort to wipe our stack out. We lost 4 grens (ouch – and we were unlucky on a couple of them, I’m sure) and 1 canon. We killed all 6 cats, the pike and the two maces.
Asoka has 4 grens and 1 canon in England
Louis adopts slavery and mercantilism

T152 840AD
Sink the caravel north of London (which had turned around after heading for Beijing) so the frigate can retake position north of London.
Bombard York with 2 acc canons and medic cat
Asoka has 3 units within reach of York so if I can kill 2 of the current 5 units, it is capturable by Asoka.
Attack lbow in York with wounded CR3 canon @ 89%. Barely win. Ouch.
Can’t get a second battle on York better than 23% so I give up the idea of making it capturable by Asoka this turn
Attack wounded musket on marble hill @ 92% and win
Attack wounded xbow on marble hill @ 96% and win
Our stack NW of York is in big trouble. Everything is badly wounded. Very vulnerable. Hope Liz doesn’t go after it with everything again.
Bombard York to 3% with remaining canon
Ask Asoka for 250 gold. He gives it.
Upgrade archer in Beijing to gren
Sell divine right to Caesar for 120 gold
Upgrade another archer in Beijing to gren.

IBT:
1 musket attacks stack and we lose a gren. She’s picking us off. Need to get York now!
Caesar adopts mercantilism and serfdom
Peace treaty with Alex expires
Beijing finishes canon, starts another
Damn it, Asoka is plundering in England east of York!

T153 860AD
Weakest canon bombards York to 0%
Frigate bombards London to 54% (again)
Asoka has 4 units in range of York, so…
Attack across the river from the NE of York with new canon – the only one with any chance of winning a battle at 86%. We win it! Now only 3 units left in York, and Asoka can take it this turn. He damn well better!
Rest of stack NW of York sits to heal
Move 2 grens and canon from Beijing to Silver Hill
Move 1 lbow from silver hill to Beijing
WW at 3 +1 for fighting B+S in the faith. Beijing @ 23 happy, 22 unhappy

IBT:
Liz is a b****
1 mace and 1 cat attack our stack NW of York and we lose two more canons, and a musket attacks the wounded canon NE of York and we lose a third canon in the one turn. Ouch!
Asoka takes York though, but has only 2 grens in there. That will do!

T154 880AD
Attack musket NE of York with gren from silver hill and win. Gren goes on into York
Move gren and canon from silver hill to York
Move remains of wounded, decimated stack into York
WW now at 4 but no negatives for B+S in the faith. Beijing at 23 happy, 22 unhappy
Cancel copper deal with Cathy now that we can
We get second silver back from capturing York
Cancel Whale for Dye deal with Cyrus
Trade copper to Cyrus for dye. Beijing now 24 happy, 22 unhappy
Bombard London to 48% with frigate
Trade spare silver to Caesar for 3gpt

IBT:
Alex wants open borders even though he’s annoyed. I accept since that will allow us to scout his area
Saladin and Cyrus both have constitution
Capac asks for a gift of astonomy. I refuse
We get rifling, start on artillery
Beijing finishes a canon, starts another
Liz’s golden age ends
Asoka upgrades all his lbows to rifles
Liz has chemistry!
Cathy has Military tradition, but no horses.

T155 900AD
Asoka wants to study steam power, but I ask him to study Artillery. He agrees. It’s 8 turns away.
Sell divine right to Capac for 190 gold
Asoka’s fleet set sail a few turns ago by the way – it’s now near Susa again. I presume it’s heading for the English coast. It would be good to arrive with our units as it lands but I don’t know if we can do that.
WW now at 6. Beijing 24 happy, 24 unhappy

Some comments about tiles near Beijing – I didn’t know how to mark this in the save:
1 north of Beijing has 1 turn to a workshop
2 west of Beijing has 1 turn to a workshop
1 east of Beijing has 2 turns to a workshop
1 southwest of Beijing has 2 turns to a workshop
1 north of silver hill has 4 turns to a workshop

That’s it from me. My turnset is done. I’ll put a copy of the file here for you, and I’ll upload it to the progress page as well.

View attachment SGOTM07 AD-0900.Civ4SavedGame

Edit: It's pretty much near the beginning of the turn