SGOTM 08 - XTeam

ShannonCT · Dec 2, 2008

A couple things I noticed about the save that you can address if you see this in time:

Stoneville's worker needs to be transported to the mainland when a galleon becomes available.

Ivoryville should work the plains hill adjacent to it.

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

ShannonCT said:
Stoneville's worker needs to be transported to the mainland when a galleon becomes available.

OK. Looks like it will be when the Galleon finishes there. The three on the south side are ruinning Cats and Trebs and have one more run to make.

ShannonCT said:
Ivoryville should work the plains hill adjacent to it.

Done.

EDIT - Update - Charlemagne has capitulated to Boudica and is now her vassal.

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

Just got a pop up that reads:

Inspired Confucian Missionaries have spread their influence out of Braga. They now seek an audience with you, requesting your assistance in funding additional missions to the Celtic Empire.

We can:
1. Refuse.
2. Make a donation of 12 Gold and convert four of our cities or one of Boudica's
3. Make a donation of 31 Gold and convert four of our cities or four of Boudica's

We currently have 39 Gold and are losing 69 gpt, I have to turn the research slider down this turn, it is at 70% currently. Our Great Merchant lands and moves towards Delhi this turn, so he is at least two turns away.

I consider this because we want some of Boudica's cities and it adds four gpt with our Confucian Shrine, so payback is 8 turns.

ShannonCT · Dec 2, 2008

leif erikson said:
I consider this because we want some of Boudica's cities and it adds four gpt with our Confucian Shrine, so payback is 8 turns.

Makes sense to do it. We'll get the money back soon and happiness later.

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

ShannonCT said:
Makes sense to do it. We'll get the money back soon and happiness later.

Agreed.

Update - Pericles has become a Vassal of Augustus.

That was interesting. Payback got even better. Confucianism was spread to Furville, Jute, Oporto, Coimbra, Bibracte, Durnovaria, Vienna and Aachen! Four of ours and four of hers!! :goodjob:

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

We just got a Great General. We could settle him in Horseville or X-ville?

ShannonCT · Dec 2, 2008

leif erikson said:
We just got a Great General. We could settle him in Horseville or X-ville?

X-ville would get more beakers and X-ville can build units faster.

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

ShannonCT said:
X-ville would get more beakers and X-ville can build units faster.

OK, that's where he's headed. :thumbsup:

ShannonCT · Dec 2, 2008

The Pericles vassalage to Augustus should make it less likely that Joao will become a vassal of Augustus also. Does Joao have a negative with Augustus because of the vassalage?

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

ShannonCT said:
The Pericles vassalage to Augustus should make it less likely that Joao will become a vassal of Augustus also. Does Joao have a negative with Augustus because of the vassalage?

Yes, he is at -1, but he remains Pleased towards Augustus.

leif erikson · Dec 2, 2008

A Great Merchant was born in Ulundi. I have begun moving him west to send on a Trade Mission. Do we have a better use for him?

ShannonCT · Dec 2, 2008

leif erikson said:
A Great Merchant was born in Ulundi. I have begun moving him west to send on a Trade Mission. Do we have a better use for him?

Don't think so. Show me the money beyotch! [pimp]

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2008

We now control all the cities we set out to capture.

Joao is ready to capitulate to us and wants to give us one of his last two cities and his map. I did not make peace, we can decide what to do. The rest is in the After Action Report. I will only include in this turn log those events not already posted.

<<< THE SAVE >>>

The turn log:
The War continues.
Load Cats onto Galleon near Coimbra, Cuirassier can meet up when they are landed.

IBT
We enter the Industrial Era by discovering Scientific Method => Physics.
Mainz has been captured by the Celtic Empire.
Augsberg has been captured by the Greek Empire.
Charlesmagne becomes a Vassla of Boudica and peace is made with both Pericles and Boudica.
We discover Oil near X-ville.
Ivoryville Trebuchet => Trebuchet
Canal-ville Xbow => Galleon
Horseville Cuirassier => Cuirassier.
Jute LB => Barracks.
Marco Polo (Great Merchant) is born in Marbleville.
Joao remains independent.

Turn 169 – 1090 AD
Load Marco aboard a Caravel and chain to Galleon.
Our Scout finds Augustus’ Army in Arpinum and it consists of:
Four Praetorians
One Horse Archer
Two Chariots
One Axe
One Cat
Two Trebs

Bombard Lisbon.

Land Cats near Lagos. There are two LB’s in Lagos and four Workers chopping forests.

Upgrade three Ballistas in Coimbra.

There is a slave revolt in Evora but we can’t get anything there.

Work the Plains Hill near Ivoryville.

IBT
A Cat attacks out of Lisbon and dies.
Pericles is now a vassal of Augustus.
Pericles adopts Bureaucracy.

Turn 170 – 1100 AD
Bombard Lisbon.

Move Xbow into Ulundi. Send Chariot to Braga.
Upgrade Horse Archer in Braga to Cuirassier.

Bombard Lagos.

Unload Cats and Cuirassier near Guimares. Find a Sword heading towarss Evora and a couple of Workers chopping forests.

Move some Cuirassier near Lagos.

IBT
Get a pop-up concerning a quest for Confucian Missionaries to Boudica. Post and seek guidance.

We agree and pay 31 Gold and Confucianism spreads to Furville, Jute, Oporto, Coimbra, Bibracte, Durnovaria, Vienna and Aachen
Two Triremes of Joao are blockading Jute, but it is connected by land?
A cottage is destroyed by an enemy infiltrator near Braga.
Furville Galleon => Taj Mahal, due in 23 turns.
Ivoryville Treb => Treb.

Turn 171 – 1110 AD
Battle of Lagos.
Lagos is at 0% culture and on a hill, a Cuirassier attack is at 67%, so we attack with a Cat.
The Cat dies and no damage is done to the LB. :frown:
Cuirassier attacks at 67.6% and dies. Only does 2 HP damage. Call off attack.
Bring up some Maces.

Battle of Lisbon
Bombard Lisbon down to 5%.
Cuirassier attacks at 79.9% and kills a LB. A Great General is born in Canal-ville.
Mace attacks at 95.5% and kills a Horse Archer.
Cuirassier attacks at 96.3% and kills a Spear.
Cuirassier attacks at 96.5% and kills a Sword.
Ballista attacks at 99.3% and kills a Horse Archer.
Mace attacks at 96.2% and kills a Horse Archer.
Cuirassier attacks at 99.4% and kills a Horse Archer.
Mace attacks at 97.2% and kills a Chariot, taking Lisbon and 157 Gold. Lisbon has a Couirthouse and a Granary, start a Forge.

Begin Bombarding Guimaraes

Land Great Merchant and begin moving to Delhi.
Load Worker from Stoneville in Galleon from Furville.
The Town directly east of the Copper Hill has its Workshop pre-built.
Chariot arrives in Braga. Cuirassier moves toward Lagos.

Take a look inside of Delhi and find: One LB, One Mace, One Horse Archer, and Two Swords, all have CBT1 except the LB which has Guerilla1.
The Holy City, Vijay… has CG1 LB, a CBT1 Sword and a Barrage1 Cat.

Move Great General to X-ville.

Change research slider to 60%.

IBT
We get a message that there was an accident on stage at the Stoneville Theater that started a fire. We pay 37 Gold to rebuild the Theater.
Stoneville Galleon => Galleon.
Jute Barracks => Stable.

Turn 172 – 1120 AD
Settle Great General in X-ville.

Drop research slider to 50% to raise gold to upgrade a Ballista.

Load Accuracy Cat onto Galleon for move to Evora.

Bombard Guimaraes.

IBT
A Great Merchant is born in Ulundi.
X-ville Cuirassier => Cuirassier.
Ivoryville Treb => Treb
Horseville Cuirassier => Cuirassier.

Turn 173 – 1130 AD
Time to make a push for Lagos.
Cuirassier attacks at 64.3% and kills a Guerilla2 LB, thank God!
Cuirassier attacks at 31.9% and retreats, leaving the LB at 1.4/6.
Mace attacks at 99.7% and kills the LB, taking Lagos plus 128 Gold. The city has a Granary and a Lighthouse, so we start a Courthouse.

Begin moving the great Merchant west for shipment overseas on a trade mission.

Move units to attack Guimaraes.
Upgrade a Ballista to Cuirassier for 140 gold.

IBT
Augustus canceled his deals with us.
Gandhi adopted Bureaucracy.

Turn 174 – 1140 AD
Battle for Guimaraes.
Cat attacks and dies but damages both the LB and Sword.
Cuirassier attacks at 87.7% and kills LB.
Cuirassier attacks at 89.8% and kills the Sword, taking the city and 121 Gold.
The city has a Granary, Lighthouse, Academy anf Market. Start a Courthouse.

The Great Merchant makes it to Delhi and nets us 1,900 Gold. Research to 100%

IBT
Joao attacks Lisbon with a Horse Archer and it dies in the attempt.
Ivoryville Treb => Treb.

Turn 175 – 1150 AD
Battle for Evora.
Cat bombards city.
Cat attacks LB and dies, reducing LB to 4.4/6.
Cat attacks second LB and dies, reducing him to 1.6/6
Cuirassier attacks at 95.5% and kills a LB.
Cuirassier attacks at 97.9% and kills a Sword.
Cuirassier attacks at 99.5% and kills a Horse Archer.
Cuirassier attacks at 99.1% and kills an Axe.
Mace attacks at 99.9% and kills the last LB, taking the city and 149 Gold.
The city has a Lighthouse. We start a Granary.
We captured four Workers.

The village tile SW of X-ville has its Workshop pre-built to one turn.

The Great Merchant is aboard the Galleon located 3 tiles north of Lagos.

After Action Report:

We have claimed all five of Joao’s cities we set out to acquire. Joao did not capitulate to Augustus, much to my surprise. He has two cities remaining and Joao is ready to Capitulate to us. He is offering the city of Braganza and his World Map, both of dubious value I’m sure. I decide to allow the team to have a look at the save before making a final decision on the deal. :deal:

I left one Galleon near Horseville in case we needed to transport anything. The other four Galleons are clustered just east of X-ville. There is a fifth Galleon, containing one Cuirassier, located south of Pigville that is headed for the others near X-ville. Two Cuirassier units are in X-ville and three Trebs are east of the city.

Physics is due in one turn. A Great Merchant is on a Galleon north of Lagos for shipment west to whatever city we decide upon.

Our Treasury contains 2,069 Gold and at 100% research we are losing 235 gpt. We have much work to do in our new territories!

I have to admit to CP that few Courthouses survived the conflict. I thought we would have at least two or three more. We do now control the Tao Shrine that we built in Coimbra.

There were several diplomatic changes as Charlemagne became a vassal of Boudica by capitulation through defeat. Pericles became a vassal of Augustus peacefully on turn 170, so he may break away in another 5 turns if he wishes. We can now see Gandhi’s info on the graphs in the info screen. We are a long way from seeing Augustus’.

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2008

Should you wish to read all the details, here is a copy of the Session Turn Log from the game.

Part 1 - turns 165 to 171: :rolleyes:

Spoiler :

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2008

Part 2 - turns 172 to 175:

Spoiler :

ShannonCT · Dec 3, 2008

Great warmongering Leif! :ar15:

I like the 4 workers you captured in Evora. Maybe we can put them to work in prechopping forests in Braga for Forbidden Palace. After Oporto's CH is finished, we'll have the 6 we need.

Cactus Pete · Dec 3, 2008

Won't have time to look at the save until probably late tomorrow night (and sorry I wasn't available earlier), but it's certainly a pleasing read.

Hope you'll keep a record of your pre-fab workshops, leif (not so easy to find such in the thread, and I most assuredly can't trust my memory).

SCT, are you sure it isn't 66% of courthouses are destroyed, not survive?

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2008

Glad to hear you enjoyed the read.

I have to tell you that my wife enjoyed reading your comment on the 5,000th post. She claimed it was proof that I really don't have a life... :rolleyes:

Cactus Pete said:
Hope you'll keep a record of your pre-fab workshops, leif (not so easy to find such in the thread, and I most assuredly can't trust my memory).

There was only one Worker near X-ville most of the turn set. The two southern most tiles to the west of the copper hill have completed pre-building their Workshops. The Worker from Stoneville has join in the effort and they are both working on pre-building a Workshop directly west of X-ville. I think there are two turns remaining, but to be sure, check the screen before ordering the build.

Our troop movements were fortuitous in Joao's area. I interrupted many a forest chop, especially near Lagos and Guimaraes. Before telling a Worker to chop, we should ensure the number of turns needed to make sure it goes into the build we want. I did not do any pre-chopping of forests in Furville, other than the one I stopped to move workers to Jute. The Worker at Furville spent his time building Workshops.

We may want to consider building a Worker or two at Canal-ville or one of the other less endowed hammer cities for service in our new territories.

Also, I have been thinking of how we can rapidly move our most experienced units to board Galleons. A ship chain through Horseville proved very effective in moving units down, could be used to move them back if we want to do that?

leif erikson · Dec 3, 2008

Almost forgot:

Thanks to Fred for keeping us straight. :goodjob:

Roster:
ShannonCT - UP
rrau - On Deck
Cactus Pete
leif - just played! :viking:

Mad Professor - Wandering in the wilderness, but still with us! :goodjob:

Frederiksberg - Providing some excellent food for thought. :thanx:

Jimmy Thunder - On Sabbatical :health:

Gator - Still there? :wavey:

Killercane - Retired. :coffee:

OK, now to get ready for the final push to build wonders we don't have and collect wonders someone else has... :mischief:

EDIT - I was just reviewing the save and noticed that Gandhi now has Philosophy, but not Paper. We need to keep an eye on him for Paper. With the second Merchant headed over, we should be able to maintain 100% research through Electricity, then Liberalism. But Gandhi bears watching, especially if he should trade Philosophy. :rolleyes:

I was watching for it, so I'm quite sure he must have just gotten it.

We also need to build two more Theaters for Globe.

ShannonCT · Dec 3, 2008

Cactus Pete said:
SCT, are you sure it isn't 66% of courthouses are destroyed, not survive?

No, there's a 66% chance that a courthouse survives (same as granary, lighthouse, and market). There's a 0% chance that a barracks or culture-producing building survives. Special buildings (academy, scotland yard) and World Wonders have a 100% chance.

leif erikson said:
There was only one Worker near X-ville most of the turn set. The two southern most tiles to the west of the copper hill have completed pre-building their Workshops. The Worker from Stoneville has join in the effort and they are both working on pre-building a Workshop directly west of X-ville. I think there are two turns remaining, but to be sure, check the screen before ordering the build.

I will try to mark where all of the pre-built workshops are.

leif erikson said:
I did not do any pre-chopping of forests in Furville, other than the one I stopped to move workers to Jute. The Worker at Furville spent his time building Workshops.

If we want Taj in 10 turns, we should get a couple workers to chop 4 forests in Furville. We shouldn't wait too long because Gandhi can now research Nationalism (and he has marble). Also, if finishing the game in 35 turns is a reasonable goal, the tail end of our 24 turn golden age will be wasted if it starts too late.

leif erikson said:
Also, I have been thinking of how we can rapidly move our most experienced units to board Galleons. A ship chain through Horseville proved very effective in moving units down, could be used to move them back if we want to do that?

The other thing we should consider is moving most of our slow units in Portugal west across the ocean, through Indian territory, and to the borders of Celtia and HRE. That's clearly the shorter distance. We could chop another galleon in Lagos to speed up the transfer. On the demographics screen, I see one AI with about 1/5 of our power. I can only assume it's HRE, as they were getting double-teamed a few turns ago. We should hit them while they're weak.

Most of the Cuirassiers could head back to our east coast by some combination of land and sea travel. If we move our medic axe in Coimbra to Braga, each of our wounded Cuirassiers can stop there until healed, and then each can move on its way as it finishes healing. We should be ready to declare on Celtia/HRE in 6-7 turns.

For techs, I was thinking whether we should spend 1 turn to research Chemistry after we partially bulb it with the free GS from Physics. There will only be ~800 beakers left to research. It would give our workshops +1 hammer and let us upgrade a caravel to a frigate (and build more). Then we can go for Electricity (6 turns), Liberalism (2 turns), and Radio (free). Gandhi is the closest AI to Liberalism now that he has Philosophy. But he still lacks Paper and Education, so it looks like there is no danger in losing the race.

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