Funny, It's almost like the Fred AI knows we're worker hunting. That'd be cool if the AI was really that smart, but we all know it is not.
SGOTM 23 - Turbo Ants
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Yep, I'm just going to try waiting a turn and see what happens.
sweet, we got our silver back. Keep an eye out for Gandhi connecting another Ivory.
Crack that whip!
Crack that whip!
wow. another success on tech stealing. Remember: river crossings are not an issue any more.
losing the Axe/worker : totally worth it since we killed the spear/axe. Feels good to thin Fred out when he's in Caste. I'm getting the sense that my turnset is coming soon. How far do you think you're going ZPV?
Looks like I get Istanbul and then take silver by force since Darius isn't cooperating.
Looks like I get Istanbul and then take silver by force since Darius isn't cooperating.
I'm done for the day. I've played up to t90. We will be able to capture Berlin next turn (or this turn if we're feeling risky, which I'm not).
If you're ready to take the save, go for it. Otherwise I'll play to the end of t91 tomorrow and capture Berlin.
We have ~400 EPs on Hatty. We need roughly 430 for Calendar+Theology.
Thebes is building a Catapult for Istanbul FYI.
We have plenty of population for you to whip.
We have plenty of population for you to whip.
Ooh, watch me...watch me... 
ZPV. I'd rather get my 10 million point game to a nice stopping point. I need to play a couple more turns there, so go ahead and play a bit more unless someone comes up with a new idea to explore. It's been a while since we re-evaluated.Mitchum
Deity
Nice work, ZPV!! Things are looking good.
Are you planning to play on a few more turns? If so, can you put together a mini PPP for it?
EDIT: Multiple xpost. I missed the page break.
Are you planning to play on a few more turns? If so, can you put together a mini PPP for it?
EDIT: Multiple xpost. I missed the page break.
Mitchum
Deity
Not sure if I've shared this with you or if you've seen it but it makes me laugh every time I see it! Number 57 is hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK6eEFd5Ko8
random notes:
Hatty will OB.
Research Music: Is that next mainly so we can build culture? Is it wise to delay forges, knights, etc.? Would we build Colossus? border pops are nice.
Then MC, Machinery (free Monarchy) Feudal, Guilds, Banking. Targeting T115.
Steal Philo from the next AI to get a GS.
With fred in caste and just produced a spear, we should just gather more units and attack next turn. He can't make another unit.
Keep track of Memed's chariot near Alexa.
Check every turn for Stalin willing to cancel Darius trades.
resources trades for gold? like clam to Mao for 2, etc.
What was Darius' hammer count in Persep last turn? He's building something fairly big. Settler? Sal's Mecca is about the same. Either of these could be GLH. They both have lighthouses. Both are very capturable cities. Continue to build GLH ourselves for the GPP?
What is Moscow up to? 150 hammers...Temple of Art? can't be HG--no aqueduct.
Hatty will OB.
Research Music: Is that next mainly so we can build culture? Is it wise to delay forges, knights, etc.? Would we build Colossus? border pops are nice.
Then MC, Machinery (free Monarchy) Feudal, Guilds, Banking. Targeting T115.
Steal Philo from the next AI to get a GS.
With fred in caste and just produced a spear, we should just gather more units and attack next turn. He can't make another unit.
Keep track of Memed's chariot near Alexa.
Check every turn for Stalin willing to cancel Darius trades.
resources trades for gold? like clam to Mao for 2, etc.
What was Darius' hammer count in Persep last turn? He's building something fairly big. Settler? Sal's Mecca is about the same. Either of these could be GLH. They both have lighthouses. Both are very capturable cities. Continue to build GLH ourselves for the GPP?
What is Moscow up to? 150 hammers...Temple of Art? can't be HG--no aqueduct.
Well played, ZPV!
We need 235 + 164 = 399 EP. Incidently, we already have 399 EP, so we don't need to run any more EP on her. She can't generate very many EP, even with 100% slider, so those values won't change. Or are we going to steal Calendar at 40% fortification? In that case, we'd need 430 EP.
Darius: 71h last turn, 86h now. It's not a settler. We can likely give up on GLH in Thebes.
Music? I suspect trading for Monarchy will be the limiting factor for Guilds, and border pops seem like the biggest short term boost. Colossus is an interesting idea.
Did I misread the costs? Construction cost us 180 EP so I used that as a base. Or do we get an extra discount for OB?
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We've been running the EP slider and get a better EP spending mod now (-19% instead of -11%).
Here is the full calculation:
MissionCost=BaseCost * Modifier / 100
The bottom part is the modifier calculation. There's lots of truncating going on there. Our EP spending mod would have to go down to -16% to increase the mission cost.
Let's put passive EPs on someone else for now. Someone who will be alive a while. We could always steal a little money or something.
Why haven't we taken the gems available? I'd go clams for Church's gems. Then we can trade gems if we want.
What about Mecca? GLH too?
Which city will finish it first?
If Darius, we could sail right thru Istanbul and get it. We have enough army to split into two soon anyway. Istanbul can be approached from the West or the East and land at Istanbul-E.
Getting farther ahead...after Persepolis, would we go thru Gandhi with our RR? or should we just go thru the mountains? In the case of mountains, we'd have to attack the Mongols. I suppose even tho it's a tile or two longer, it's faster to go thru Gandhi. City tiles don't need a RR and those hills are slow to move thru.
Mitchum
Deity
I'm still unclear what our VC is going to be. If religious, should we pick our "opponent" or will we make it such that we don't have one?
If we're going religious, we can have our vassal vote for us. Probably better to not have an opponent in the vote. But it doesn't really matter, as long as our vassal is not our opponent.
Health was a problem in Thebes, which reminds me someone had corn for trade.
Edit: at the time, we didn't have clams online - Athens only got a trade connection once we settled Canal city.
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