eldar
ChiefTank
Strike before Alex gets his saltpeter hooked up. I'd rather face Hoplites than Muskets.
Strike before Beijing flips as well....
Strike before Beijing flips as well....
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soul_warrior
Termite!
like they say "strike while the iron is hot" well, in this ase not very appropriate, but you get my meaning
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Roster:
eldar
Tubby Rower
soul_warrior
Beorn - just played
Minute Man - up, builder to start throwing bricks at Alex
jb1964 - on deck
A-K
eldar
Tubby Rower
soul_warrior
Beorn - just played
Minute Man - up, builder to start throwing bricks at Alex
jb1964 - on deck
A-K
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Do we go straight for Athens or do we take out Thermpoylae (horses) first?
jb1964
Hunter of Fish
If we have the forces to march on Athens and take it then we should. If disconnecting horses or iron on the way is a minor, and affordable, diversion then fine.
With so few cities Alex may be able to put a large number of defenders in each local. If we fear Athens is the next Beijing then we should fight more of a war of attrition making sure the replacement units are spears and bows.
My $0.02 and off the cuff thoughts.
With so few cities Alex may be able to put a large number of defenders in each local. If we fear Athens is the next Beijing then we should fight more of a war of attrition making sure the replacement units are spears and bows.
My $0.02 and off the cuff thoughts.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Good news..... Athens is on grassland and on our side of the river
So-so news....We have units in Greek territory in the East.
go get em MM!!
So-so news....We have units in Greek territory in the East.
go get em MM!!
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Note that Inching in was founded on a hill!! do not engage right now
EDIT:: the remainder of continental Greek cities are either on grass, plains, or tundra
EDIT:: the remainder of continental Greek cities are either on grass, plains, or tundra
Minute Man
Prince
OK, I see it. Can't play until tomorrow night, so there's plenty of time for you bloodthirsty warmongers to advise this humble builder how to proceed. 
My $0.02: I'd really rather not see Beijing flip, after all the trouble we went to to get it. If only some idiot hadn't seen fit to found Inching in where it is...
...But I think we do need to do something about it.
And I think attacking there is doable because (a) longbows vs. hoplites is better than archers/horses vs. spears and (b) Beijing was the Chinese capital and, as such, was much more heavily defended. I doubt Inching in has more than a couple of hoplites in it, which we can probably handle.
Beyond that, I think disconnecting Alex's iron is a higher priority than taking Athens (if we do the first, thet'll make it easier to do the second later), but I really don't see why we shouldn't try to do both.
Not that I'm going to get that far on my turns, of course. As I see it, the immediate priorities are (a) relieve the culture pressure on Beijing and (b) start carving out a path of destruction toward Alex's core. When should I launch the attack? Right away, or wait to build up some more foces first?
eldar said:
Tubby Rower said:
My $0.02: I'd really rather not see Beijing flip, after all the trouble we went to to get it. If only some idiot hadn't seen fit to found Inching in where it is...
...But I think we do need to do something about it.And I think attacking there is doable because (a) longbows vs. hoplites is better than archers/horses vs. spears and (b) Beijing was the Chinese capital and, as such, was much more heavily defended. I doubt Inching in has more than a couple of hoplites in it, which we can probably handle.
Beyond that, I think disconnecting Alex's iron is a higher priority than taking Athens (if we do the first, thet'll make it easier to do the second later), but I really don't see why we shouldn't try to do both.
Not that I'm going to get that far on my turns, of course. As I see it, the immediate priorities are (a) relieve the culture pressure on Beijing and (b) start carving out a path of destruction toward Alex's core. When should I launch the attack? Right away, or wait to build up some more foces first?
soul_warrior
Termite!
cut the iron.
attack at your descretion.
try to have reinforcements arriving soon though, or an adequate forse to finish the job.
attack at your descretion.
try to have reinforcements arriving soon though, or an adequate forse to finish the job.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
YIPPEEEE an idiot move I'm not responsible forMM said:
The units in greek territory were on automove on my turn 10 and they got to that tile after it got culture-nuked to Alexander, to my dismay.
A lot of longbows are coming in the next few turns and after that you'll have a pretty steady flow. The ~~1 LB/turn chain has just begun being operationnal on my turn 4-5ish.
I think it would be a good bet to send units (horses) at the top end of the continent, where he has no borders, and prepare a hit-and-run disconnection of the iron with them. That's what I'd try, and it's probably not a good idea, but I felt I had to put something in to that effect. Spears could do, too, but it's not as thrilling as a hit-and-run horse squad, you know.
About Athens, we'll have an awful lot of artillery and LB's by the time the iron is disconnected and I seriously think we have chances. All we'll need for that war is like half a dozen, maybe even less, spears. IIRC we don't have a great deal of them.
I say Iron #1 priority, starve Inching in 2nd, take Athens 3rd. Athens is overrated as a tourist attraction anyways, all the stuff there is to see there is old and crumbling into dust. But again, look who just said that and ponder.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Yeah sorry about the city on a hill. I for some reason don't have a lot of flips normally so I tried......valid point on the bows vs archer
regardless. I think that you can start wherever to give our continent a Alexectomy
Just wait to get those units out of Greek territory.
regardless. I think that you can start wherever to give our continent a Alexectomy
Just wait to get those units out of Greek territory.
jb1964
Hunter of Fish
Tubby Rower said:Yeah sorry about the city on a hill. I for some reason don't have a lot of flips normally so I tried......valid point on the bows vs archer
regardless. I think that you can start wherever to give our continent a Alexectomy
"Alexectomy" must go in the next spoiler. Anyone care to suggest the details of this procedure (i.e. extraction technique, orifice, etc.) ?
Dammit Jim, I'm an engineer, not a doctor!
MM, take your time on all move and decisions. I'm in no big rush to get this. I have a solo game going right now, me vs. Mother-out-law (a.k.a. Jabba) that's keeping me busy.
Minute Man
Prince
Actually, that's not a bad idea. I do suspect that it will just result in some dead horses, but it might be a useful distraction, and who knows, we might get lucky. And our horses aren't going to accomplish much if I use them to attack hoplite-defended cities anyway.Beorn-eL-Feared said:
Of course I'll wait until we're clear. And I do think I'll start with Inching in; losing the Pyramids to a flip would be rather painful. After that, we'll see how it goes.Tubby Rower said:I think that you can start wherever to give our continent a Alexectomy
I'm still working on the details, but apparently it's a procedure that can be performed with a longbow.jb1964 said:
Well, I'm busy for the next two evenings, so it's either tonight or not until the weekend. I'll try really hard to get it done tonight.
eldar
ChiefTank
I'd better get this in now before I forget:
I will be visiting my out^Win-laws (who live in Lawn Guy Land ) for a couple of weeks at the end of September. Luckily they are a civilised lot and have wireless 'net access (my wife's laptop will also be travelling with us!), but I won't have access to Civ 
So I can spam, but not play.
[Edit] I could of course take my Civ3 discs with me. I think if I did that, the passengers on the 'plane would discover what decompression is like at 35,000ft, and I'd be attempting the world high-diving record....
I will be visiting my out^Win-laws (who live in Lawn Guy Land
) for a couple of weeks at the end of September. Luckily they are a civilised lot and have wireless 'net access (my wife's laptop will also be travelling with us!), but I won't have access to Civ So I can spam, but not play.[Edit] I could of course take my Civ3 discs with me. I think if I did that, the passengers on the 'plane would discover what decompression is like at 35,000ft, and I'd be attempting the world high-diving record....
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
@Eldar: spam but not play ... what's the problem??
@MM: Surgical procedures involving a longbow include liposuction and piercings, as well as some organ-shortening procedures and some mild cases of dismembering.
@MM: Surgical procedures involving a longbow include liposuction and piercings, as well as some organ-shortening procedures and some mild cases of dismembering.
eldar
ChiefTank
Okay, I realise that spamming but not playing isn't all that bad, but I do occasionally like to move the pieces around the board.
Particulary when there are Geeks to dismember, disembowel, disenfranchise, dislocate, dissipate, disgust, and distroy.
Particulary when there are Geeks to dismember, disembowel, disenfranchise, dislocate, dissipate, disgust, and distroy.
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
@eldar - remember the power of single malt when dealing with the wife's family. Good luck, have fun, and make their lives a living.... 
Minute Man
Prince
OK, I'm halfway through my turns. But the turns are taking a long time, since I've been approaching the war with Greece very carefully, so I'm stopping here for the moment. I'll try to squeeze in the rest of my turns in the next day or two.
The good news is that our longbow surgeons seem to have caught Alex in exactly the right position to perform the procedure (i.e., with his pants around his ankles). Tubby's Folly and Pharsalos are smoking piles of rubble, and the military response so far has been almost nonexistent.
The bad news is that the AI's seem to be racing ahead in tech - Japan started Shakespeare's a couple of turns ago. But I think we need to finish up the war before we can really concentrate on the tech situation (unit support is killing us right now).
One question: I had though we had made peace with China, but apparently not, as Mao just because willing to negotiate. Should I go ahead and make peace now? The one possible downside is that we do have a couple of towns (most notably Beijing) at some small risk of flipping back to China. I'm leaning toward making peace anyway, but since I'm stopping for now I figured I'd go ahead and see what you guys think.
The good news is that our longbow surgeons seem to have caught Alex in exactly the right position to perform the procedure (i.e., with his pants around his ankles). Tubby's Folly and Pharsalos are smoking piles of rubble, and the military response so far has been almost nonexistent.
The bad news is that the AI's seem to be racing ahead in tech - Japan started Shakespeare's a couple of turns ago. But I think we need to finish up the war before we can really concentrate on the tech situation (unit support is killing us right now).
One question: I had though we had made peace with China, but apparently not, as Mao just because willing to negotiate. Should I go ahead and make peace now? The one possible downside is that we do have a couple of towns (most notably Beijing) at some small risk of flipping back to China. I'm leaning toward making peace anyway, but since I'm stopping for now I figured I'd go ahead and see what you guys think.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
hey!!! Did you rename it first?
On Slanty Eye War, I say stay in it. I'm not going to watch my Beijing flip and not be able to take it back because of a peace deal. We could also wait to see if he makes a settler and puts it somewhere. If WW isn't a problem, then I say stay at war.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
I'd go WW as well. Mao has nothing to offer right now - I guess pretty confidently - so just in case he ever does, stay there.
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