Shocking! FGM is widespread in U.K.

[Elta]

Have you any idea about,how it hurts?IMHO jews are doing it right.A week after the birth.For men,i mean..

Yeah I reckon no one would want it done if they were grown and it were there choice.

 

[warpus]

Among practicing cultures, FGC is most commonly performed between the ages of four and eight, but can take place at any age from infancy to adolescence. Prohibition has led to FGC going underground, at times with people who have had no medical training performing the cutting without anesthetic, sterilization, or the use of proper medical instruments. The procedure, when performed without any anesthetic, can lead to death through shock from immense pain or excessive bleeding. The failure to use sterile medical instruments may lead to infections.

I don't want to read the rest...

 

[Sims2789]

Have you any idea about,how it hurts?IMHO jews are doing it right.A week after the birth.For men,i mean..

Babies feel pain but don't remember it. Plus, male circumcision decreases sexual pleasure, so boys and men are harmed even if the act of circumcision itself doesn't cause any psychological trauma.

 

[MjM]

Babies feel pain but don't remember it. Plus, male circumcision decreases sexual pleasure, so boys and men are harmed even if the act of circumcision itself doesn't cause any psychological trauma.

There is no conclusive scientific proof that it decereases sexual pleasure.

 

[Elta]

There is no conclusive scientific proof that it decereases sexual pleasure.

There is proof that nerve endings let you feel things thou.

 

[Sims2789]

There is proof that nerve endings let you feel things thou.

He's talking about foreskin removal, not clitoris removal.

There is no conclusive scientific proof that it decereases sexual pleasure.

However, it does cause the head of the penis to harden, which creates a thicker layer between the never endings and the stimulus. The foreskin often retracts all the way during sex in uncircumcised men, so the head is protected from hardening at other times.

 

[MjM]

There is proof that nerve endings let you feel things thou.

And? Just because nerve endings aren't there doesn't mean decreased sexual pleasure.

 

[warpus]

It means you feel less.. although the removal of the foreskin could cause some other nerve endings elsewhere to become more sensitive.. then again I'm not a foreskin expert, so I'm just talking out of my ass here.

 

[Sims2789]

It means you feel less.. although the removal of the foreskin could cause some other nerve endings elsewhere to become more sensitive.. then again I'm not a foreskin expert, so I'm just talking out of my ass here.

Women who choose to have their clitoral hoods removed become more sensitive for a little while, but their clitoris later hardens like circimsised men's heads and they have less orgasmic pleasure.

 

[Elta]

And? Just because nerve endings aren't there doesn't mean decreased sexual pleasure.

It means you feel less.. although the removal of the foreskin could cause some other nerve endings elsewhere to become more sensitive.. then again I'm not a foreskin expert, so I'm just talking out of my ass here.

What he said.

 

[warpus]

In any case, male circumcision is to female circumcision what a !@#$slap is to a collapsed lung.

 

[Sims2789]

And? Just because nerve endings aren't there doesn't mean decreased sexual pleasure.

Yes it does. If you play/played baseball frequently and didn't use batting gloves you'll understand what I'm talking about. If you gloved one hand and not the other, as I did, the difference will be even more clear.

If you don't/didn't play baseball, try this simple experiment. Your writing hand's fingers are probably callused. Touch something rough with the the callused parts, then touch something with your other hand's fingers. Your other hand will probably be more sensitive since it isn't callused.

Now, imagine if you'd worn gloves for your entire life. Your writing hand's fingers wouldn't be callused. Men naturally have a "glove" around their penis' head, which protects it from callusing. Circumcision removes this protection, causing it to callus, which decreases your sense of touch on tour penis and therefore decreases your physical sexual pleasure.

 

[MjM]

Yes it does. If you play/played baseball frequently and didn't use batting gloves you'll understand what I'm talking about. If you gloved one hand and not the other, as I did, the difference will be even more clear.

If you don't/didn't play baseball, try this simple experiment. Your writing hand's fingers are probably callused. Touch something rough with the the callused parts, then touch something with your other hand's fingers. Your other hand will probably be more sensitive since it isn't callused.

Now, imagine if you'd worn gloves for your entire life. Your writing hand's fingers wouldn't be callused. Men naturally have a "glove" around their penis' head, which protects it from callusing. Circumcision removes this protection, causing it to callus, which decreases your sense of touch on tour penis and therefore decreases your physical sexual pleasure.

Rofl, penises do not get calluses on them, or if they do, it is not widespread among circumsised men. There are still many sensitive areas, and besides, a little less feeling is worth it being much more sanitary and in the United States, aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Elta]

Rofl, penises do not get calluses on them, or if they do, it is not widespread among circumsised men. There are still many sensitive areas, and besides, a little less feeling is worth it being much more sanitary and in the United States, aesthetically pleasing.

Sanitary? Have you smelled an uncut mutilated penis? it's 2008, we have soap now. and it does kill nerve endings.

 

[emzie]

I know almost nothing on the subject- why is female circumcision worse than male circumcision? Health problems, does it make them infertile...?

Imagine instead of having your foreskin removed, someone put your penis in a blender.

 

[Gibsie]

No, seriously MjM, it might not exactly resemble a callus on a hand (Since the surface of the head is of a different type of skin), but it's still the same effect. Assuming you're circumsized, just think: when the head of your penis rubs against the fabric of your clothes during normal day-to-day activities, does it feel uncomfortable or even painful for you? You're probably thinking, "No of course not!", and you're right, it doesn't, if you're circumsized. However, were the foreskin of an uncirc fella retracted and the head to run against his clothing's fabric, the nerves would go crazy with discomfort and possibly pain. Not a good thing, I know... but during sexual contact, those nerve endings send an entirely different sensation, a good sensation. One that isn't provided if you're circumsized. Now of course it's still pleasurable either way, and if you want you can claim this makes circumsized men able to last longer in bed, whatever. But that's how it is.

None of which changes the fact, that FGM is far worse and needs to be abolished. But what can be done? Any attempt in this country to take away parental rights to treat their kids how they like just makes people whine about the nanny state...

 

[mdwh]

Rofl, penises do not get calluses on them, or if they do, it is not widespread among circumsised men. There are still many sensitive areas, and besides, a little less feeling is worth it being much more sanitary and in the United States, aesthetically pleasing.

But perhaps that should be left to the individual concerned to decide.

 

[Sims2789]

said in above post. delete.

 

[Abaddon]

I thought this was a typo about the Flying Spagetti monsters...


*leaves quietly*

 

[MjM]

I think that if it reduces sanitation-related diseases then male circumcision is good for areas without modern hygiene. The US has modern hygiene, so circumcision has no disease benefit.

Sure it does, look them up. And no matter if you want to face it or not, the norm in the US is circumcised, it would be like someone with a circumcised penis going to europe or something, it's not normal there, and considered extremely unpleasing to the eye to be snipped there, as it is to be unsnipped here.

Also, I'm not trying to compare this to FGM or anything, I just saw people pegging on circumcised folk, it's mostly Americans who have probably been made fun of because of their lack of snippage.