shou'd parenting be a right or a privilege?

See post


  • Total voters
    27
Parenting shouldn't be a right. As MobBoss said, the only way you would be denied the right to parenthood is if you have almost no financial credibility or if you are a murderer/rapist whatever. Those people don't deserve to be parents anyways. So parenting is best as a privilege.
 
No, it should remain a priviledge.

Why not a right?

It should be a right until you do something to abuse it.

Whats next mobboss? People having to take tests before they can have sex and have kids?
 
Why not a right?
The way he is getting is that you have a right to that privalage. However, the privlage of being a parent can be taken away from you.

People having to take tests before they can have sex and have kids?
No, more likely if the parents who had their privlage taken away due to abuse of the child. And they want to be parents again. They would have to go through all sorts of parenting classes and legal venues to be forgiven and have their privilage reinstated.
 
Why not a right?

It should be a right until you do something to abuse it.

Whats next mobboss? People having to take tests before they can have sex and have kids?

Is it ideal to be providing someone a child if they can't afford to take care of it?
 
Is it ideal to be providing someone a child if they can't afford to take care of it?

I wasnt speaking strictly of adoption. In fact i wasnt speaking of adoption.

Giving birth really doesnt mean anyones providing you with a child. If you give birth its YOUR responsibility until you lose it.
 
I wasnt speaking strictly of adoption. In fact i was speaking of adoption.
The Government can simply look up your records. No tests needed.

If you cannot sufficantly support a child financialy, youre denied
If you have been convicted of child abuse or youre a sexual preadetor, youre denied.

It's all about background checks.
 
Actually, if it abides by US law is does have to give you what is rightfully yours. If the government makes basic health care a right, private 3rd parties will have to provide you health care subsidized by the government. Ditto with adoption agencies. If having a kid was a constitutional right, adoption agencies could not deny anyone the right to adopt a kid.

But they can...and often do.

Ergo. Having a kid is a priviledge, not a right.

So you'd translate "the right to keep and bear arms" as requiring government to equip you with a rifle? :crazyeye: Then how about rephrasing the thread topic question as "the right to bear and raise children"?
 
The Government can simply look up your records. No tests needed.

If you cannot sufficantly support a child financialy, youre denied
If you have been convicted of child abuse or youre a sexual preadetor, youre denied.

It's all about background checks.

I meant to say i WASNT speaking of adoption. :mad:
 
Actually, if it abides by US law is does have to give you what is rightfully yours. If the government makes basic health care a right, private 3rd parties will have to provide you health care subsidized by the government. Ditto with adoption agencies. If having a kid was a constitutional right, adoption agencies could not deny anyone the right to adopt a kid.
Not true, free speech and right to guns does not mean people have to give you a platform for your speech, or that gun shops must supply you with guns.
 
Why not a right?

It should be a right until you do something to abuse it.

Whats next mobboss? People having to take tests before they can have sex and have kids?
So people who are infertile and who want children should be given an unfair advantage when trying to adopt? Effectively what you're saying is that these people would have a right to adopt someone's child. Personally I think that should be based on the choice of whoever deals with the adoption- whether it's social services or the parents, or both.

Being a parent cannot be a human right because not all humans are fertile. They do have the right to try and adopt though.
 
Lets have some common sense from the prophet of common sense.
Are you summoning me again?

If it is a right to have children, but you cant have them naturally, then an adoption agency couldnt deny you adopting a kid. However, we know thats not true....if the adoption agency thinks you are unable to provide for a kid finanacially, then you will be unable to adopt. Ergo, having a kid is a priviledge, not a right.
There are plenty of rights that have time, place, and manner restrictions. Just check out restrictions on 1st & 2nd Amendment rights. Financial requirements are merely a time restrictioon if you assume that the American dream of upward mobility is still in place and working. Any other item that may disqualify you from adopting is similar to the same things that could get your natural childen taken away from you or get your licnese to carry in most states revoked. So it is a right subject to timing restrictions or a right that you once had, but lost because you did something stupid.
 
Why not a right?

It should be a right until you do something to abuse it.

Whats next mobboss? People having to take tests before they can have sex and have kids?

Xanikk, if you are adopting you pretty much do have to 'take a test'. But I dont want it to be a right, because the government doesnt have any business making such gurantees.

Are you summoning me again?

Did you see a pentagram? If not, then no.
 
we have the right to bear arms, not bear children.
 
Did you see a pentagram? If not, then no.
Most Christians thoughout history believed the pentagram to by a symbol of the five senses (of which common sense is not one of them) or the five wounds of Christ. They also believed it as a symbol to protect themselves against demons and witches, not summon them. If you are trying to summon Common Sense, you may want to consider upgrading to a Hexagram.
 
Back
Top Bottom