SMAC/SMACX Carbon

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by senecasax
This Game Rules. Just got it today. I'd say the best part is building my own units! And i get to name them cool things

It is really cool. Did you find the patches? I guess I can upload them to my .mac page. There are a couple for SMAC and one for SMACX. Not talking about the carbon patch.

 

[dojoboy]

Two SMAC patches uploaded to my .mac public page; hurry - 45 days left of my trial period.

http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/...tefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en

 

[Sid]

Oh, go on. A man who can afford Jaguar must surely be able to deny his kids food so that he can purchase a dot.com membership.

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by Sid
Oh, go on. A man who can afford Jaguar must surely be able to deny his kids food so that he can purchase a dot.com membership.

You would think so, eh? I actually bought it on eBay for $72, which made me quite happy. Then, a week later, I was notified through my school's tech department that Apple was giving it away free to teachers. I mean ! So, now I have two copies. I keep meaning to place one back on auction at eBay.

 

[senecasax]

I'm playing in X, so I assume the Apps are patched. I just installed the extra stuff that came with it.

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by senecasax
I'm playing in X, so I assume the Apps are patched. I just installed the extra stuff that came with it.

Good point. I know an Alien Crossfire patch fixed a bug where rioting cities wouldn't flip in SMACX, I think. I bet Aspyr has it.

Alien Crossfire 1.2.1 is now uploaded to my .mac public page.

 

[senecasax]

yea. their ftp site had both downloads. I got em, for what good it did. SMACX rules too! I want to try out some multiplayer (i'll have to switch back to 9 to do that... and with a 40 day uptime on my machine...)

 

[jbouklas]

The package of SMAC/X came yesterday evening. It wouldn't install in Classic mode (damn), but it works. The carbon version of both games looks great (I played both for about 20 minutes). I won't get a chance to play it for a while (damn work is piling up). So far, it looks great.

-Jim

 

[dojoboy]

Who would like to take part in a PBEM game? We can do this w/ SMACX, can't we?

 

[senecasax]

PBEM, sounds cool, count me in. However, I'm going home on spring break friday afternoon, and won't be back until the following sunday (so i'm pretty sure i don't want to start until then).

Can i be Morgan? I'm a money-grubbing industrialist at heart
(after all, I voted republican)

 

[senecasax]

Originally posted by jbouklas
It wouldn't install in Classic mode (damn), but it works.

Huh. I had no problem installing it in classic mode. Maybe you had a permissions error - I highly suggest running all installers through Psuedo or logging in as Admin. OS X's permissions structure can be a pain, especially with the guarded Applications folder (even when I change the permissions, each apple update resets them)

 

[Sid]

I'm up for PBEM. In SMAX, bags Pirates or Planet Cult; in SMAC, bags Gaians or Peacekeepers or University. Now you know all about me.

djb: I vote for the Standard-sized map of Planet to start, at Talent or Librarian levels (or lower). All default Rules to apply.

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by Sid
I'm up for PBEM. In SMAX, bags Pirates or Planet Cult; in SMAC, bags Gaians or Peacekeepers or University. Now you know all about me.

djb: I vote for the Standard-sized map of Planet to start, at Talent or Librarian levels (or lower). All default Rules to apply.

Sounds good. Maybe Librarian since we "could" gang up on the AI. I prefer SMAX myself, all the factions are still available. I'm in for playing anyone. Would we want the Aliens involved? I don't think I do, because they can't be part of the council which is where a lot of the fun is.

Okay we've got two players, me and Sid. Anyone else? Oh yeah, I guess we'll have to play this in classic, right?

 

[Sid]

djb: don't forget senecasax. Why do we have to play Classic?

 

[dojoboy]

Originally posted by Sid
djb: don't forget senecasax. Why do we have to play Classic?

I don't know. I guess I was thinking about stability. How do we get this started? One person sets up the game, assigning the chosen factions, then plays his turn?

 

[senecasax]

ok heres the deal - I'm not gonna play this time around b/c spring break means I go home, and at home, my computer is not there. (my dad's G3 has no space for games, its for his photography work, and my siblings homework). I would love to play a game though, as soon as I get back

 

[Sid]

djb: watch your in-tray; I'm Planet Cult, you're The Human Hive
senecasax: we'll catch you later.

 

[jbouklas]

I've played it for about five hours across this past weekend. It works great in OS 10.2.4, with one execption: it crashes about 90% of the time when I try to save. VERY ANNOYING! Otherwise, it's great. It will crash if it tries to play a movie and the CD-ROM isn't in the drive. Personally, I made a disk image of Alien Crossfire and just mount it before playing.

-Jim

 

[Sid]

Jim: if you disable the movies, via the Option key when launching, you'll minimise some of the crashes. However, if you havn't played the game before, they are a huge part of the enjoyment and scene-setting.

It is truly a great game and playing around with the various factions has always given me insights into how various ideologies affect life on this planet right now. [Yeah, I know: it's just a game]

 

[jbouklas]

Actually, I've played both games extensively before. I bought both right after they came out for the PC (bought a Mac in 2000). I've since moved a few times and lost my Alien Crossfire PC CD and managed to scratch up my SMAC CD. The game is amazing. The diplomacy is incredibly realistic. It's just like the UN in my opinion. I am playing a game right now and I have the largest military, and I'm focusing research/economy/etc on my military. The result: most of the world resents me because of my large forces. They let me know this directly ("you may fool others by your quest for "knowledge," but I know it's just a face for military spending," or something). It's very interesting. It blows away the Civ3 AI. It is really a completely different game than Civ3 (fairly similar to Civ2, which I bought when that came out also). In AC, we can play a civilization that knows basic modern aspects of government/economy/etc, and there is, therefore, much greater flexibility in choosing an economic structure, etc. I would really like to see an Alpha Centauri 3, maybe with an interface more like Civ3 (brighter, more visible, better advisors). The game has so much potential. It's a shame they just gave up on it. Overall, it blows Civ3 out of the water.

-Jim