Spearman Vs Tanks part 2: Longbowman vs Helicopter gunship

[DaveDash]

Ok, then the argumentation has changed, because this thread started out about realism. I understand your immersion issue, but remember that it's highly subjective. Immersion is important for me too, but I always imagine that the ancient units are not really ancient, but rather backwards compared to my civ, in the sense that Afghanistan units were backwards compared to Soviet troops or Iraqi units were backwards compared to U.S. units.

At the current moment in time, this is what I pretend too.

If I should really think that I was fighting a world power fielding real longbowmen in the modern era, that would destroy my immersion factor, since that is something that's never happened, except for in cheap Science Fiction movies involving time machines. I don't understand how you can think your rival world powers are fielding ancient units vs your modern units without getting your immersion factor destroyed. But as I said, immersion is subjective.

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I think you're wrong here. It's not a bit luck and some bonuses that defeats your units, but rather bad play and some bonuses. The ones who complain here, are the ones who attack directly with their modern unit, without using artillery to wear down defences first, or without using the correct units with correct upgrades for the job.

If you did your job as a decent general, then you would not suffer those losses, except maybe once in a hundred games. But if you forego all military strategic thinking, then yes, it will happen a bit more often, for a good reason.

Then either learn a bit about military tactics, or mod your game. Just don't ask for the game to be simplified for all of us just because you don't want to be bothered with the need for being a decent general during war.

Civ4 is way better in civ3 in this regard, but it IS randomness. Im pretty competent with real life tactics thank you very much, having read most of the U.S. military field manuals from globalsecurity.org in my spare time.

Do you know what military game I enjoy the most? Combat Mission. It's not about me 'not knowing how to play', it's about the fact that the power gap between the bottom and top of the tech tree isnt high enough, ruining my immersion of the game.

Again though, I do admit, Civ4 seems WAY better than Civ3 in this regard. Civ3 combat was just stupid.