Sorry, didn't mean to ignore you; I was just looking for a definitive yes or no, which you said earlier you didn't have. Interestingly, Jaybe said (just above) that you don't lose the Wonders if if you obtain them via conquering, which would seem to conflict with the idea that you do lose them if you switch ideologies. (After all, when you a conquer a city, it plus any Wonders it contains would then be running under a new ideology.) The two situations can't both be correct, or if they are I'm guessing it's a bug.
Statue of Liberty bug?
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That Other Guy
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When you change ideologies, you are allowed to pick as many new tenets as you had in the previous tree minus the early adopter bonuses (ie, if you're first to freedom and switch to order when you have a total of 6 tenets, you will be given 4 free tenets. I'm not sure if you can get early adopter tenets when changing).
Additionally, you do not lose the wonder when you change. Someone on reddit did a 'all wonders in one city' run after BNW came out, and used world ideology votes to force the change. Here's a link: http://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1jcc21/all_46_world_wonders_in_one_playthrough_bnw/cbd8n8i
Additionally, you do not lose the wonder when you change. Someone on reddit did a 'all wonders in one city' run after BNW came out, and used world ideology votes to force the change. Here's a link: http://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/1jcc21/all_46_world_wonders_in_one_playthrough_bnw/cbd8n8i
Okay, so that's one confirmation that you retain ideology-specific Wonders upon switching ideologies. Jaybe's reference suggests the same. Yzman, can you find the thread in which someone said that they lost the Wonders?
Also, a small nitpick from the reddit thread:
I routinely see 6-7 Wonders represented visually around my city. Typically the first ones built, so usually Stonehenge, the Pyramids, the Temple of Artemis, the Statue of Zeus, the Parthenon, the GL, the Oracle, etc. Sometimes even more. I play on a very slow laptop, with all settings turned as far down as possible, so it's not a function of higher settings.
Aaron90495
King
I can 100% confirm that the Wonder remains if you switch ideologies. One game, I built Prora but 5 of the other 7 civs went Freedom, forcing me to switch. I checked, and Prora remained in my city.
Bangin'.
Yzman
Deity
I can't find the previous thread in which the person said they disappeared so will assume that what everyone says about them remaining is correct.
Only one thing to confirm after that, does the wonder still HAVE EFFECT? For example, if you build Kremlin and then switch to freedom, do you still get the bonus for building tanks?
Maybe that is what I am remembering, not the actual wonder disappearing, though it seems unlikely they would do that. I just want to make sure all bases are covered before we call this solved.
Edit: Found a thread discussing this a small bit
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=503170&highlight=kremlin&page=7
Only one thing to confirm after that, does the wonder still HAVE EFFECT? For example, if you build Kremlin and then switch to freedom, do you still get the bonus for building tanks?
Maybe that is what I am remembering, not the actual wonder disappearing, though it seems unlikely they would do that. I just want to make sure all bases are covered before we call this solved.
Edit: Found a thread discussing this a small bit
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=503170&highlight=kremlin&page=7
Aaron90495
King
Yep, the wonder (Prora) was still providing happiness for me. I hovered over the happiness tooltip to see where I was getting my happiness, and the "happiness from wonders" metric accounted for Prora.
If you really want, I can try to dig out a save later.
Yzman
Deity
Can anyone confirm that Kremlin isn't bugged and disappears then? That seems to be the issue that was stated in that thread.
