pre-release info New civ guide: America

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Sassanids straddle the line but are a good fit for Exploration Age IMO, and the gunpowder empire Safavids are a prime candidate for Third Age Iran IMO. If anything, I feel like later incarnations of Persia have been hobbled by Antiquity Persia being a pure combat civ, which is strange enough for the Achaemenids and clearly more tailored for their current segue into Mongols.
Fingers crossed for a rework when Persia gets its own line!

(Yes, I'm aware that we shouldn't look at things this way. No, I do not think that prevents Iran from getting the obvious treatment that China and India did.)
 
Fingers crossed for a rework when Persia gets its own line!
The one bright side is that if Persia is all war, then we can have a cultural/builder/militaristic Assyria. :D
 
Sassanids straddle the line but are a good fit for Exploration Age IMO, and the gunpowder empire Safavids are a prime candidate for Third Age Iran IMO. If anything, I feel like later incarnations of Persia have been hobbled by Antiquity Persia being a pure combat civ, which is strange enough for the Achaemenids and clearly more tailored for their current segue into Mongols.
Yeah, I find that weird considering how stable the Achaemenid empire was under its best emperors. If anything, Persia doesn't have enough diplomatic flavour.

And the same applies to the Parthians who were notable philhellenes and had more cultural and diplomatic refinement beyond "shoots arrows from horseback".

if the Mughals don't have too much Builder flavour (I can imagine a Cul/Dip focus for them), I wouldn't mind if the "build wonders while conquering" angle went to the Safavids instead.
 
My guess is that it was a working name that inspired the choice of Franklin as a leader and the art + music. But, once it came time to actually design them and assign bonuses, they shifted to focus on the 19th century without warning the composers. As such, the file for the music probably read as “colonial America theme” to the editors who received it, and they uploaded the video as such.

(I know nothing of the actual development pipeline so I have a sneaking suspicion this is massively wrong. But hey, it offers those of us worried by the name a means to cope!)
 
Hmmmm. Now place your bets if it’s just added flavor or an actual hint that there is more America to come in the distant future.
I'm hoping that we get an alternate Modern Age America in the first major expansion pack when Firaxis fleshes out the end game with technology and events from ~1950 to the present period.
 
But the design of the America isn't anything like Colonial America, but more like the 19th to the 20th century. :confused:
Devs narrative is that Modenr Age begins at 1750 AD. (That's when Industrial Era began in Civ5!). And that was Seven Years War, and the final days of Ayutthaya Kingdom (Ayutthaya fell sometimes in 1760s and Thonburi founded a year later inside Fort Bangkok (Built about 150 years earlier), and for 15 years, seat of power relocated to East Bangkok, and Rattanakosin became a name of a new city... roughtly when 'Siam' as known was founded.
 
That prospector has got to be my favorite unique civilian unit so far! Grabbing resources just outside your cities' reach sounds amazing.

Is this the first instance we've seen of civ-unique culture bombing?
I'd like him to use all cowboy guns in combat. :P
They're based on American historical phenomenon. Gold Rushes of the Mid 19th Century.
And this phenomenon is associated with American Wild West.

 
This, the fact they picked Qing instead of modern China and that the game ends a hundred or so years before the typical Civ end year confirms in my mind that one of the major DLC's, likely the first will be about adding a 4th age that covers 1950/60 up to 2050 or better yet beyond that into a more specualative future era
 
But the design of the America isn't anything like Colonial America, but more like the 19th to the 20th century. :confused:
Given that the background refers to more colonial periods too I think its fair to say it was given this name to distinguish it from a potentially more modern version of America in the future. I don't think the modern US would be known for more than their steel mills if they were pulling from the country's entire history.
 
This, the fact they picked Qing instead of modern China and that the game ends a hundred or so years before the typical Civ end year confirms in my mind that one of the major DLC's, likely the first will be about adding a 4th age that covers 1950/60 up to 2050 or better yet beyond that into a more specualative future era
If we're going to have a fourth Era, i'd much rather have it between Antiquity and Exploration, thank you.
 
If we're going to have a fourth Era, i'd much rather have it between Antiquity and Exploration, thank you.
So i'm assuming that'd represent 400 to around 1300? That's possible because the ages shrink as time goes on so it'd be 3400 years, 900, 400, 250 roughly speaking but given the game currently ends before the 2050 mark of Civ 5 and 6 with all the modern techs, civics, units, infastructure, etc that comes with that period I think it's far more likely they'll add onto the game instead of chopping up the periods of time they have into smaller pieces.
 
If we're going to have a fourth Era, i'd much rather have it between Antiquity and Exploration, thank you.
Highly doubt that will happen. they seem to be ramping up to an information or atomic age. Would take a major overhaul to fit mechanics in between the first two ages.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more fleshed out classical age.
 
Highly doubt that will happen. they seem to be ramping up to an information or atomic age. Would take a major overhaul to fit mechanics in between the first two ages.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more fleshed out classical age.
Yea I wish the fourth age threw the more "modern" WWII 20th century stuff into this 4th hypothetical atomic or information age, but doubt that's going to happen.
 
the term 'Manifest Destiny' is a term several Americans feel uncomfortable by. I think that's the reason.
The minority of people who get offended at the mention of Manifest Destiny are just the opposite side of the same coin to people who are angry that Tubman is a leader. Not everything has to be looked at through an ideological, culture war lens.
Regardless of political beliefs "westward expansion" was referred to as "manifest destiny" and it feels juvenile to change the name of something so obvious.
 
Highly doubt that will happen. they seem to be ramping up to an information or atomic age. Would take a major overhaul to fit mechanics in between the first two ages.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love a more fleshed out classical age.

I've made my peace with information/atomic being in eventually, I can only hope Antiquity could get a similar treatment so that we could have a better Ancient/Classical split.
 
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