Stickied thread for mod/patch ideas?

[rlw33]

Is it a good idea to have a stickied thread for mod/patch ideas?

Just to get the ball rolling... i'd like a mod/tweak that allows a civ with a cleric family to claim a civ-unique religion (e.g. if Egypt founds a city seat with their Cleric family they get to found the Cult of Amun-Ra instead of one of the generic religions like Zoroastrianism).

 

[Dale]

Is it a good idea to have a stickied thread for mod/patch ideas?

Just to get the ball rolling... i'd like a mod/tweak that allows a civ with a cleric family to claim a civ-unique religion (e.g. if Egypt founds a city seat with their Cleric family they get to found the Cult of Amun-Ra instead of one of the generic religions like Zoroastrianism).

So you want clerics to choose between a world religion and the nation's paganism?

 

[rlw33]

Hmm... I was thinking a global religion reserved for one Civ (which now I think about it does sound like a contradiction in terms).
I don't go the Paganism route often, but it seems like it involves building shrines to various minor deities?
I was thinking a major full blown religion but unique to a given culture (i.e. not lots of minor deities but one dominant God like Ra, Zeus, Marduk etc.).
Sorry if I explained that poorly.

 

[Dale]

No I understand what you mean. I just don't understand how they would be different to the existing Paganism religions. They are already specific to a nation. And yes, whilst at time a certain God may have been seen as higher than the other (eg: Cult of Amun, Zeus) they are still very much based on nature and polytheist beliefs. Both of which are accepted to mean pagan religions.

So I'm not sure what the difference is you're proposing.

 

[nolegskitten]

Is it a good idea to have a stickied thread for mod/patch ideas?

Well, why not but I'd recommend using the OW discord to do that. There is a lot more activity, dedicated suggestions and feedback channels and a lot more visibility for devs there (although Dale does his round around here too).

Just to get the ball rolling... i'd like a mod/tweak that allows a civ with a cleric family to claim a civ-unique religion (e.g. if Egypt founds a city seat with their Cleric family they get to found the Cult of Amun-Ra instead of one of the generic religions like Zoroastrianism).

As Dale said, It really sounds like you are suggesting paganisms to me. Have you given paganism a real try ? The combination of paganism and a world religion, taking the laws and theologies that synergises, is quite strong.
With polytheism Shrines give you a lot of agency in city planning if nothing else, 4 per cities (no level requirements on the city these days) is strong, and with Tolerance it's excellent discontent management. You'll easily have positive relations with bother just because of the religious buildings. Mythology (first level theology) makes all shrines +2 culture, that's potentially +8 per city, etc.
Don't think of Paganism as a route in itself, it's always better in combo with a world religion (whether you founded it or not).

 

[rlw33]

Have you given paganism a real try ?

No, in all fairness I haven't. I discovered that doing that and also founding a major religion just gave my families yet another excuse to get annoyed at me (like they needed one..), so i've mostly just concentrated on getting a major religion and sticking with that.
What I had in mind was sort of three tiers of religion. Paganism, which as I envisaged it was a bunch of minor deities you could build shrines to around your empire. The existing major, global religions (Judaism etc.). But then also a kind of intermediate religion, which would be your empire having a kind of patron deity (like Zeus in Greece, Amun-Ra in Egypt or Marduk in Babylonia) that would function like a major religion, except that it would be unique to your civ.
You may be right though, perhaps i'm just revealing my lack of gameplay with the paganism option.

 

[Dale]

Yeah definitely sounds like you need to check out Paganism in game more.

BTW just a historical note. You mention patron deities. Yes, at various times different deities were seen as "higher" or were made the "primary", such as the Cult of Amun-Ra. But in most cases it was dependent on where or who was in power. For instance, Amun-Ra was only considered the "primary" whilst the capital was Thebes. Amun was the patron God of Thebes in the Old Kingdom and when the capital moved to Thebes Amun was merged with Ra.