Stop moving Troll Threads to A&E?

[Earthling]

I'm sure many of us know that the Arts and Entertainment as both a recent addition and sometimes controversial one has faced its challenges, but here I have a suggestion that could help the forum out. Certainly the forum can work for the topics of discussion intended to be discussed there. It's still not the most heavily trafficked forum but it can have it's place.

However, I think this is enough without becoming a repository for moving troll threads that in other parts of the forum are just locked or moved to moderator only areas, no?

A couple of accidents are understandable, and I'm not citing any specific threads here, but there have been way too many for this to be just accidental on the part of posters or the moderators. A poster should know better to start a dozen topics in other forums that don't belong there and exist for trolling with terrible OPs.

Likewise, I'm sure some of the moderators realize by now a lot of threads invariably get moved to A&E even though people keep posting those topics elsewhere, particularly Off-Topic. For actual discussion, to encourage the growth of the A&E subforum instead, that's understandable that topics that belong in A&E under the current guidelines could be moved there. But when looking at the A&E forum it's painful to see so many recent threads that don't belong and many were actually already closed for trolling, to drown out the legitimate discussion threads people have that are ongoing in that forum.

Arts and Entertainment remains in a precarious balance as a forum and if it's what people want to discuss I wouldn't mind hearing other posters thoughts on that too, the general purpose of the forum.

At the very least, I think that closing a thread so nobody will be posting in it anymore anyway, but simultaneously moving it to A&E with the implication that that is where such troll stuff belongs is pointless and annoying to clutter up the forums.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I dont see any recent locked threads there except two I started and they were started in A&E.

 

[azzaman333]

I only see 4 threads (by only 2 posters) that I would think needed to be closed, and only one of those for trollish reasons. And there's only a couple more threads in A&E that are locked neither of which were moved.

 

[Moss]

The way I handle A&E content related threads in OT is to move them. If they are just a trollish thread; however, they are locked and if the moderator wants to move them, I guess that's their choice (although, I just leave them put).

You also say that many threads don't belong in A&E that are currently there, of which do you speak because I can't find any (on the first page at least) that don't fall under A&E content?

 

[Earthling]

I really can't refer to specific threads because that sounds like a PDMA trap that we're not supposed to talk about. (edit - I should also say that as a regular poster I can't know all of which threads were actually moved from a different subforum, especially without examples, except that I know that there are threads that fit under what I was discussing in this OP, which have very recently just been moved to A&E, but there may be threads in A&E which started there and were not moved which I couldn't know if they were or not) However there are clear examples of the types of the thread I am talking about. It might just be a difference of opinion in what belongs in A&E but I feel it degrades that subforum and is unnecessary, especially considering standard practice for the moderators like everywhere else to move closed down threads to moderator-only forums.

If the implication is that a locked troll thread is the "type of thread" that belongs in A&E, then by all means keep moving them there.

 

[Moss]

Well, lets discuss our possible difference of opinion on what you believe are the types of threads that belong in A&E. What types of threads do you believe belong there? All threads that have A&E content or do you have a more specific criteria?

 

[SuperJay]

I'm an A&E fan, and am interested in the overall prosperity of that subforum. I check it pretty regularly (during the week) and I haven't observed the phenomenon that Earthling describes in the OP. Maybe I'm just not seeing those locked troll threads?

I assume that mods only move threads to certain subforums if the subject matter is better suited to that subforum than it is to the forum where it was created. If a thread gets moved to A&E because of its subject matter, and then subsequently locked, that's a different scenario.

I haven't seen A&E being used as the trash dump for locked threads, myself. I could be wrong, though - it happened once before.

 

[NickyJ]

I don't see any troll threads there either, let alone locked ones.

 

[Earthling]

Well, lets discuss our possible difference of opinion on what you believe are the types of threads that belong in A&E. What types of threads do you believe belong there? All threads that have A&E content or do you have a more specific criteria?

I don't think there is a difference of opinion on the topics or subject matter that are supposed to be in A&E. What I do believe is that the standards of discussion and thread creation in A&E should be no different than Off-Topic or equivalent subforums, whether a thread is moved there from another forum or not. So threads with one-sentence OPs, "click my link" threads, necro'd threads which are years old, and the like which consistently get locked and moved out of Off-Topic or other subforums, I am disappointed to see ending up or remaining in A&E.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

The thread you're referring to is not a racist, trolling thread, or not really all that problematic. Plotinus and I agreed on that.

If you still wish to continue, pls use PM. Probably Plotinus, since he's the one who moved it to A/E.

And for this thread, I don't really see why it shld be locked; the OP is still interesting enough today so I moved it to A/E.

Also remember different sub-forums, different standards. What will not do for OT might be acceptable elsewhere. OT is special because it has way too high volume and turnover, so we must handle it more stringently so that it is useable. Standards can be relaxed for the rest of the more laidback Colloseum.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

On second thought, I'll leave this thread open, so that people can comment on the general direction A/E shld be going.

 

[classical_hero]

It's just one person complaining.

 

[Birdjaguar]

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