Strange thing that involves capturing the 1 (or 2) wonder(s) necessary for a G. Age

[Grey Fox]

If you are for example Germany and you capture Sun Tzu and the Great Library, you won't get your Golden Age as you probably should.

BUT, you can still get it because you have those wonders.

Here is how, you just build two more wonders(maybe 1, probably the same amount of wonders as you need) and you will get the Golden Age.

In GOTM8 I got mine by building the Smiths trading company, and I had Great Library and Sun Tzu Captured.

So have you encountered this? Or do you know something I don't?

 

[Lovro]

If I am right, it's probably a bug in the code. My idea:

When you capture a wonder, the game doesn't check for a GA (as it should not). However, when you build a wonder, the game probably does consider the captured wonders when checking if you should get a GA (it shouldn't).

Thus if you are Babylon and capture a scientific wonder, then build a religious, you would also get a GA (due to the bug).

It would probably require a simple fix in the code if it is so.

 

[Ozymandius]

AS the Egyptians I normally build the Pyramids which starts the GA.
Because this GA is wasted unless you have many cities I built the Oracle to make my subjects happy, built the Library to concentrate on making money instead of research. The Zulus built the Pyramids but I still got a golden age when I built my next wonder

 

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by Ozymandius
AS the Egyptians I normally build the Pyramids which starts the GA.
Because this GA is wasted unless you have many cities I built the Oracle to make my subjects happy, built the Library to concentrate on making money instead of research. The Zulus built the Pyramids but I still got a golden age when I built my next wonder

This is probably not the Bug I encountered, you probably built a Religious wonder (the Oracle) + some industrious like the Great Wall or something...

 

[Cartouche Bee]

Well I built Sun Tzu and then Copernicus and didn't get a Golden Age from building Copernicus. So, capturing or not may be a factor but some events have a certain amount of randomness.

CB

 

[Lovro]

Originally posted by Cartouche Bee
Well I built Sun Tzu and then Copernicus and didn't get a Golden Age from building Copernicus.

If I'm not mistaken, you can only have one GA per game. Are you sure you haven't already had a GA?

 

[Cartouche Bee]

OK, Copernicus is expansionist wonder, even though it doubles your science. My example is worthless to your cause, as usual.

CB

 

[Cartouche Bee]

Originally posted by Lovro
If I'm not mistaken, you can only have one GA per game. Are you sure you haven't already had a GA?

No Lovro no GA upto that point, see my post above.

CB

 

[Ozymandius]

I think it is wonder #3 that triggers it.

 

[Grey Fox]

I have had the Golden Age when I built the two or one wonder needed.

 

[cracker]

Grey Fox, sounds like you definitely have found a bug.

Many of the other posts on this thread seem to be about unrelated topics that reflect a lack of thorough understanding of how the wonders trigger a GA.

Each civ has two traits. (Example, industrious and religious for egypt.

Most Great Wonders have at least one trait feature that they compliment. Some great wonders have two or three traits.

Examples:
Colossus - Commercial, Expansionist, and Religious
Pyramids - Industrious and Religious
Great Wall - Industrious and Militaristic

If you build one Great Wonder that matches both your civs traits then Whamo you get a GA in one turn.

If the GW has lots of traits but only one of them matches a trait for your civ, then you have to build a second wonder with a trait that matches the other trait for your civ.

You supposedly can't get a GA by building Just religious wonders if you are a religious civ even if you build two or three of them, if you do not also happen to build a wonder that matches your other trait.

 

[Parmenion]

The Greeks once beat me to building Leonardo's Workshop and I wanted it so badly I sent in an invasionary force to capture the city. I captured it no problem and my advisor told me we now had the wonder, enabling cheap upgrades etc...
The city was well in the heart of enemy territory and despite me rush-building several culture-producing improvements I was still concerned about flipping because it was surrounded by other Greek cities, so I thought that if I sold all the improvements and abandoned the city I would be able to build the wonder in one of my own native cities closer to home with a specially prepared 'palace city'. I did this but found that the wonder wasn't available as a build option and worse still had disappeared from the list of wonders built in the world.
What has happened here and is there a way to 'destroy' a wonder and then rebuild it?

 

[cracker]

Parmenion,

Your question is covered in the game manual (Yeah, I know "who reads that stuff anyway").

When cities that contain great wonders are abandoned or destroyed then those wonders are lost forever and cannot be rebuilt. Great WOnders can be captured and confer their physical benefits but do not generate culture except for the civ that built them.

When cities that contain small wonders are abandoned or destroyed, then the civ that owned the small wonder can rebuild it in a new city. Small wonders cannot be captured and are always destroyed when their host city is captured.

This question is also covered in the FAQ forums section.

 

[Hjortþór]

If I am germans I sometimes get GA when I attack with my first panzer has that happen to someone.

 

[Lovro]

Hjortþór, when you win your first battle with your civilization's special unit, you always trigger a golden age. You can only do this once per game, though.