Succession game # 3 - The claustrophic Indians

[LKendter]

Sucession game #3 - tales of the Indians.

LKendter
Knight-Dragon
Scoobs
donsig (currently playing)
Hobbes (on deck)

OK, guys. Here we go. I plan to edit this thread with the turn order above changing. Always check this first post.

You may play up to 20 turns. Less is always OK.

What I am going to do is ask everyone to subscribe to the thread, so that you know when something is going on. The biggest danger with these types of games is lack of communication, and people not realizing there turn. Questions? Issues? E-mail at lkendter@speakeasy.net

I ask that each player submit a turn summary like the next post below. Make sure to attach your game as a zip file.

 

[LKendter]

4000 BC - We start at the edge of the land mass. Our people don't like what we see, so we look a little more.

3950 BC - We MUST be on a tiny world. I see a border for another civ already. What the ...

3900 BC - Delhi is built, and our worker starts a road net. The Uzbek tribe teachs us the wheel. We may very well need it. I wonder if we will even see a War Elephant. Game may be over before then! The direction of our sages is Bronze Working. Not my typical choice, but I am feeling claustrophobic.

3500 BC - We find Tokyo. We have the hardest decision I have ever made this early! War already? YES! However, I am trying a decieve the AI trick. We attack the worker. Will his warrior leave Kyoto to get the Worker?

3450 BC - Doesn't work, but a free worker. Already damaged Japan, and helped us!

3350 BC - Japan attacks our warrior on the Hill, and losses

3250 BC - Madras building with 4 mines, and Kyoto maybe 2. Japan can't last long.

3050 BC - Japan attacks again an fails

Losses - Japan 2 warriors, us none. What is really insane - This may be the whole Island! 3 lousy city spots.

Goals - TAKE Kyoto in 2950 BC. Wait for the 4 warriors walking there to be in range at once. I doubt he can survive the onslaught.

JoeSpaniel - You are up. CRUSH JAPAN!

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[joespaniel]

I'll do my best, sir!

 

[SkidiWili]

I'm ready to serve as the fifth player if needed...

 

[LKendter]

I added you as #5, SkidiWili.

Let's see if the game even gets to you. 8 civs, on what appears to be a tiny world. Aren't random settings fun ? :crazyeyes

 

[joespaniel]

The Year 3000 BC -

Mahatma Spaniel takes the reigns of power in India. A war for survival exists between the people of India and the Imperial Empire of Japan.

Showing his skill of leadership, our former Mahatma Lee put us in a position that ensured our victory. The Indian warriors destroyed the defenders of Kyoto in swift crushing battles. Only one of our units were lost and we marched into the Japanese capitol, victorious, in the year 2950 BC. The fledgling civilization of Japan ceased to exist.

Great indecision amognst our wise men ensued as to which improvements to build in Kyoto. A temple was agreed upon to expand our culture and make our people happy. Wine just outside Kyoto's borders would be a welcome luxury to our pious civilization. A road to it was begun.

Warriors now acted as our eyes and ears in the world we know so little about. They journeyed east.

The Year 2800 BC -

UNBELIEVABLE! ANOTHER RACE OF PEOPLE EXIST JUST BEYOND JAPAN! THE CHINESE!!!

Their borders are so close to ours that we fear they will overcome India before it can truly grow. Cautiously, we make first contact with these strangers. They are ruled by a man named Mao and he is very polite with us, though not impressed by our culture.

They are as advanced as we, but poorer in gold. We offer to pay for their knowledge and skills, and aquire new weapons of war like the bow and arrow. The method of making stone buildings. They work with bronze, but we have been experimenting with this and are now close to perfecting it ourselves. No sense in giving gold for nothing. We teach them our alphabet. No harm to us in that.

Thus our domestic priorities alter radicaly. A decision to send settlers to build a city near the wine is made in Dehli. We must have it before the Chinese beat us to it. The temple in Kyoto is halted and barracks started.

The Year 2370 BC -

The town of Bombay is established and wine finaly comes to Dehli. A festival is held and the construction of a great palace to honor the Mahatma is begun. (palace screen)

Sensing war with the Chinese may occur someday, we finish the barracks in Dehli and begin to produce bronze weapons of war. Then archers.

A great monument to India is planned next. A bronze colossus!

In the waning days of the Mahatma Spaniel, before his passing to his next incarnation, a meeting with Mao of China is arranged. India is endevoring to teach its people to write in the hopes that one day we will make maps and travel the seas. China meanwhile has learned to make a metal much stronger than bronze. They call it Iron.

We feel threatened by this. We offer China all our gold for the secret of making this wondrous and terrible thing. They want more. We settle on our gold and the promise to tribute more gold, and teach them to make wheels.

Amazingly, there was iron ore nearby Dehli all along. Our gods smile upon us, yet we do not always heed.

The Year 2230 BC - The passing of Mahatma Spaniel. There is no mourning nor sadness. It is our belief the Great Spaniel will return in another incarnation one day and lead the Indian people again to glory and enlightenment.

Another great Mahatma is about to shed his light upon India! The Knight-Dragon!

 

[joespaniel]

OK, after action report:

Japan fell like a ton of bricks. Bam! Thanks for the GREAT tactical position Lee. Leaving Dehli undefended and attacking all-out was the correct move. It paid off big time.

I switched to settler because the temple in Kyoto would have took too damn long. We needed that wine before China got it and a buffer city. One city to block instead of access to our other two. Sorry it packed in tight, but its best this way.

My intention was to build a massive army in Bombay, however thats now up to others. Keeping the peace with China is an option. 50/50 chance we can beat them, and not easily. I would play it by ear.

IMPORTANT - The JAPANESE settler, not the Indian, could be used to make a colony on the iron. Our cultural expansion into that iron is a long, long way off.

The tax/science/luxury rates are set to 8/2/0 because we need the money right now, and science rate only increases from 21 turns to 19 at 90%. So its a waste to do anything else at this time.

Attacking China in my turn would have been suicide. They had spearmen and archers to our warriors. Now we will both have swordsmen. So it will be even for awhile, soon.

I recommend building a wonder now. In Dehli. I know it sounds crazy, but theres not much else to do. Colossus would make the most sense.

Good luck Knight-Dragon! Here it is!

 

[Knight-Dragon]

We came to power amid little fanfare for our empire was in grave straits, helmed in to the east by the Chinese. Fearing for the safety of our imperial citizens in Bombay, we switched to city walls and also sent out our warriors to the east to recon in force.

2150 BC - Our warriors laid eyes on Shanghai, a mighty city of 3!
2110 BC - The Chinese demanded our departure, which we prompted complied with. It wasn't the time to force the issue. But we knew now Shanghai was only defended by warriors and that our forces outnumbered the Chinese .....
2070 BC - Warriors returned to Bombay; barracks built in Kyoto, now building spearmen. Our archers in Delhi were readied and rushed to Bombay, whilst another unit of archers were being trained.
2030 BC - Archers reached Bombay; a mass buildup was ordered.
1990 BC - We saw Chinese warriors recon outside Shanghai. Beware!
1950 BC - The warriors were awed by our massive border presence and left.
1910 BC - More archers. Now training spearmen in Delhi. Archers left for Bombay. Sent out warriors fr Bombay to recon in force again.
1870 BC - Finished walls in Bombay, building barracks. Our warriors reached the outskirts of Shanghai and sent word that only warriors defending the city of 4.
1830 BC - Sensing a kill, we moved in our army at the border - an awesome force of 2 archers, 1 spearmen and 1 warrior to join the advance party of warriors outside Shanghai. The Battle of Shanghai was about to commence!
1790 BC - The Chinese came whining but no one shalt resist our imperial destiny. Our forces attacked Shanghai and just in time! For their spearmen were readied and were sitting around waiting for the orders to be fortified. Our archers attked first and were wiped out in a heroic battle, weakening the defending Chinese spearmen. Our next force of archers took out the enemy spearmen, raising morale within the ranks of our army. After that, it was an easy job for our warriors to take our their fortified warriors and Shanghai was ours! We got the grapes. And then we moved in our remaining forces to occupy the city but the ppl of Shanghai resisted our forces.
1750 BC - Beyond Shanghai, across the coastal sea, a number of rude German warriors came into view. We contacted them but they had nothing to teach us. We knew they had 3 cities thru the diplo screen. For the time being, we shalt do nothing as they were still without our reach. Our spearmen in Delhi were ready and rushed south to reinforce our positions. We began training archers. In Shanghai, we sent out our warriors to scout and saw the borders of yet another Chinese city somewhere to the far east.
1725 BC - Our warriors met some Chinese warriors and defeated them.
1700 BC - Kyoto built spearmen and now were building archers. Our injured recon warriors saw another bunch of Chinese warriors and for the time being, gave no battle and withdrew. We knew Beijing was being defended by spearmen.
1675 BC - We quelled one resistor in Shanghai while our warriors returned to Shanghai under pursuit by vicious Chinese warriors. Our spearmen reached Shanghai whilst another was fortified in Bombay. Delhi was now building a temple while the archers who had been trained were now rushing to Shanghai to strengthen our southern defenses.
1650 BC - Rush-built a temple in Shanghai, sacrificing a Chinese citizen to the gods. The resistance at that point collapsed and Shanghai was ours for real and good.
1625 BC - Temple in Shanghai was finally finished. Now building workers. Fr wandering traders, we heard that the Chinese were building the Pyramids in Beijing and were gladden. No other military action was reported. We could also see the borders of a new German city somewhere to the east.
1600 BC - Our worker was now building a road to Shanghai, fr Bombay, escorted and protected by a worker. Archers reached Shanghai.
1575 BC - Our army moved out! 2 archers, 2 warriors, 1 spearmen heading towards Beijing to plunder and pillage.
1550 BC - Temple in Delhi finished. Building workers. Chnaged production in Kyoto to spearmen. We attked and destroyed Chinese warriors in our path to Beijing. No mercy!
1525 BC - The cultural borders of Shanghai expanded. The Chinese were building Pyramids again; they must have switched to spearmen in the meantime. We saw at least 2 spearmen in Beijing, one had been fortified. Our army moved further in and would pillage the next turn whilst our injured archers retreated back to our borders to rest.

All too soon, we passed fr our reign and the veins of power would be handed to the next emperor of India. But never fear for some day, we shalt return in the time of our empire's greatest need.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Items to note : -

1) Writing next turn. Finally. Recommend we go for map-making, to build ships to explore the southern shores visible across the seas south of Kyoto.
2) Refurnished the treasury. Got 170+ gold.
3) Cultural borders of Delhi will expand next turn. Get that iron! Workers are being prepared for the job and will be ready in Delhi next turn.
4) Germans have access to horses. Fr diplo screen. They are also annoyed with us but we can live with that.
5) Recommend we build a city on top of the ivory resource north of Delhi. Will give 4 free support units, get us the resource and prevent other civs fr settling in our backyard.
6) Since we got writing, can set up embassy with Germans and find out where's their capital. Maybe military alliance against the Chinese? We can take Beijing while they the other younger Chinese city. Also improve relations. Boy, am I wicked!
7) I think the Chinese has no iron .... Hadn't seen Chinese swordsmen yet.

 

[joespaniel]

GREAT JOB! You were able to pull it off, and Im humbly impressed. So far every player has left the next one in a good position to expand and suceed. Glad you heeded your instincts instead of halting like I did.

What great progress considering the poor starting position. Aggressive play style has paid off handsomely.

 

[joespaniel]

The Indian Empire at the end of joespaniel's reign

 

[LKendter]

Great game so far! Love what you to guys did.

You usually expect some problems with different play styles / goals. However, with this map size, we all agree on mass attack. This game will end with a domination victory most likely. I think we should ALL plan on that goal. Part of the trick with domination victory is land within your borders. Plan on one culture building per city.

1 - I agree with map-making. This could be a very small world. Bombay will be able to build galleys.

5 - I agree - build the Ivory city next. Priority #1. This map has extreme danger of junk behind the line computer cities. Plus this city can build galleys. We need another port. Can't afford to lose that luxury.

Kyoto is set up perfect right know. Spearman finishes. Start temple. Next turn, whip out the temple. It will lets us get a temple in two turns. Gets the culture building here.

Good news is Germany so far appears to NOT have iron. Of course, it may just not be connected.

Next up - CornMaster

 

[Knight-Dragon]

There wasn't anything for our archers to do <shrugs>. Saw Shanghai was being defended by fortified warriors (that's what the recon in force was all about ), so just moved in for the kill. Now that Beijing is busy building the Pyramids, they won't be building units to retalliate so I think we can have some time to get out those swordsmen. While our army pillaged their improvements.

 

[CornMaster]

We now have a source of Iron!!!

The Chinese killed two warriors, and then offered peace. So I accepted. Got the science rate out of the gutter!! 10%!! Up to 80%. Save us 15 turns researching. Working on Philo. Going to get MapMaking next.

^----Before Turn 8----^

Turn 13 News: Germans tried to build a city near our borders.....drove them away. Discovered Philo, starting Pottery (to get Map Making)

Final News.

Just finished turn. Working on map making. Also building a settler I planed to put on a boat to take to land to the west. Have 4 units patrolling the border to the south near China. Now, Germans are trying to sneak a settler and warrior past our borders so I'm moving a unit back and forth the keep them back. If you miss a time and don't match the German's moves...they will slip by and we will have to declare war!! So watch that situation VERY CLOSELY!!! Also building some Swordmans.....incase of emergency.

 

[LKendter]

Next up - SkidiWili

The other decision - That ivory near Delhi. Once the computer gets mapmaking, he will find that spot. That also should be high on the list. Plus a second luxury looks real nice

The big decision - When to hit Beijing again We our out of expansion room except through China.

I am glad to see the Pyramids from a size 5 city. When the city grows, use the forrest until the hill is on-line. I have lost to many wonders by a single turn or two. That extra production will be key.

I might get a turn tonight. SkidiWili was quick in the other succession game he is playing.


SkidiWili, I caught a great setup by CornMaster. Bombay can start a galley instantly after the swordsman. You may have to build something else temp, but he is right. We need to hope one of those other islands is empty.

 

[CornMaster]

Originally posted by lkendter
SkidiWili, I caught a great setup by CornMaster. Bombay can start a galley instantly after the swordsman. You may have to build something else temp, but he is right. We need to hope one of those other islands is empty.

That was the plan. Just make sure you take an archer, or swordman or something with it so the Settler isn't captured if the island isn't empty.

 

[joespaniel]

Nice moves, Corn.

If some wonderful people would build enough swordsmen in the next few turns, I think I could find a nice place to expand during my next turn. <evil laugh>

 

[SkidiWili]

-900BC New way of life:the SkidiWili, whips and soldiers are increased greatly in number during his reign.
-850BC War with Chinese. Why spare 'em?
-800BC Demanded the German to leave our lands. They declared a war. It's so nice that they give free workers. Upgraded warriors to swordmen
-710BC Built a colony at the ivory.
-690BC Beijing saw the wisdom of joining us after multiple battles.
10.turns
-650BC Peace with China, they bought it with 81 gold+3/turn. Turned my full attention towards Germany. Started to build temple in Beijing to gain some cultural uphand over the Chinese.
-550BC Koningsberg ahead!
-510BC map making invented. Towards Literature

The SkidiWili's reign ends. The tyrant decides to become a fisher rather than a world dominator. A new ruler is sought.

Those two Chinese cities look delicious... Maybe they don't need them. Let's send some swormen to ask...

 

[LKendter]

SkidiWili,

Please create, then attach a new zip file. I twice downloaded, and I am getting an error I can't get past.

I can't move until I get this downloaded.

Lee

 

[joespaniel]

I tried it too. The attachment is bad, problem with the zip.

Skidi posted the wrong attachment in the German Succession Game thread as well.