Supporters of Immigrant Center Ousted

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/02/AR2006050201805_pf.html

Herndon voters yesterday unseated the mayor and two Town Council members who supported a bitterly debated day-labor center for immigrant workers in a contest that emerged as a mini-referendum on the turbulent national issue of illegal immigration.

Residents replaced the incumbents with challengers who immediately called for significant changes at the center. Some want to bar public funds from being spent on the facility or restrict it to workers living in the country legally. Others want it moved to an industrial site away from the residential neighborhood where it is located.

The labor center forced the western Fairfax County town into the national spotlight last summer as the immigration debate grew deeply contentious. Even though fewer than 3,000 people voted yesterday, advocates on both sides of the issue looked at the Herndon election as a test of public sentiment. Outside groups such as the Minuteman Project, which opposes illegal immigration, intervened in the debate, and Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, is suing the town over the establishment of the center.

The council voted 5 to 2 last August to establish the center, but yesterday's vote created an apparent 6 to 1 majority in opposition. Steve J. DeBenedittis, 38, a health club operator and political newcomer, defeated Mayor Michael L. O'Reilly with 52 percent of the vote. Council members Carol A. Bruce and Steven D. Mitchell, who voted for the center, also were turned out of office. Jorge Rochac, a Salvadoran businessman who supported the center and was seeking to become the town's first Hispanic council member, also was defeated.

The people of America are finally starting to wake up and let traitorous politicians know they can only push their treason so far...
 
Are these illegal immigrants? Otherwise I don't see what's wrong with it. Our ancestors were all immigrants at one time.
 
Gogf said:
Are these illegal immigrants? Otherwise I don't see what's wrong with it. Our ancestors were all immigrants at one time.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. Legal immigrants shouldn't suffer because of the actions of the illegal invaders.
 
VRWCAgent said:
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. Legal immigrants shouldn't suffer because of the actions of the illegal invaders.
Was it you or someone else complaining about the term 'undocumented workers'? Anyhow, illegal invaders? Goodness.
 
Gogf said:
Are these illegal immigrants? Otherwise I don't see what's wrong with it. Our ancestors were all immigrants at one time.
I think it is obvious from that article this this "labor center" was created to aid and abet the illegal enemy invaders.
 
I didn't get that from the article at all. It just seems that the illegal aliens were also likely to use it, but I don't see it as having been thought up for the purpose of helping the illegal aliens.
 
Here's a question for you... what would you do if Americans took matters into their own hands, but the police arrested them just to keep the peace?


It's rhetoric like "enemy invaders" that makes me wonder if the American Southwest is gonna turn into the New Wild West - in more ways than one...
 
Chieftess said:
Here's a question for you... what would you do if Americans took matters into their own hands, but the police arrested them just to keep the peace?

I'm not fan of vigilante justice. Let the authorities handle it, and if they are not handling it appropriately, bring pressure to bear to get them to. I'd have no problem with someone being arrested for taking the law into their own hands. Kind of like the whole abortion thing. Abortion sickens me, but not much more than those who shoot physicians who commit abortions.

It's rhetoric like "enemy invaders" that makes me wonder if the American Southwest is gonna turn into the New Wild West - in more ways than one...
Just for the record, I never said "enemy". I do not at all consider the illegal aliens as enemies. Invaders yes in that they are entering without permission illegally, but I don't see them as having destructive plans on our nation.
 
I was replying to Inqvisitor when you posted.
 
Chieftess said:
Here's a question for you... what would you do if Americans took matters into their own hands, but the police arrested them just to keep the peace?
Americans are going to start to have no choice but to take matters into their own hands. Time has run out for the government to prove itself to be anything other than a bunch of corporate louses. The second amendment was created for a scenario just like this.

Right now the police will not dare to do anything against illegal aliens. Only people who try to uphold the law will face punishment by police whose loyalty is to their paycheck, not to the law they were supposed to uphold.

These illegal aliens are an invading our very country and our army is away fighting for foreign nations!

It's rhetoric like "enemy invaders" that makes me wonder if the American Southwest is gonna turn into the New Wild West - in more ways than one...
It's already been declared an official state of emergency in several southwestern states for this very issue...
 
I followed the Herndon debacle closely and the center was for illegals. It was set up because illegals were standing outside of a 7-11 and the residents around the area were mad and rightly so that it was a problem to have up to 40 illegals harassing the costomers, urinating in public, driving down property value and an increase in crime. This town was quick to spend millions over the years to support illegals when the money should have been spent arresting them for tresspasing and handing them over to ICE for deportation.
 
Inqvisitor said:
Americans are going to start to have no choice but to take matters into their own hands. Time has run out for the government to prove itself to be anything other than a bunch of corporate louses. The second amendment was created for a scenario just like this.
A right to bear arms and use them against other humans? I am sorry but I cannot shot and harm an innocent human being that breaks my own moral code on "Thou shall not kill".

I believe in the right for arms but shoting immigrents illegal or not is not right.

Inqvisitor said:
Right now the police will not dare to do anything against illegal aliens. Only people who try to uphold the law will face punishment by police whose loyalty is to their paycheck, not to the law they were supposed to uphold.
Perhaps if there are improvements with our border patrols and have outreach programs for poential immigrents to help them come to the US and become US citizens.

Inqvisitor said:
These illegal aliens are an invading our very country and our army is away fighting for foreign nations!
They are not invading our country, they are comming here to seek jobs and a new opportunity for a better life. Personaly, I would like to see many of our illegal immigrents to have an opportunity to be educated to pass the citizenship exams and become American Citizens.
 
CivGeneral said:
They are not invading our country, they are comming here to seek jobs and a new opportunity for a better life. Personaly, I would like to see many of our illegal immigrents to have an opportunity to be educated to pass the citizenship exams and become American Citizens.

If they want to come here so bad, why can't they just immigrate legally?
 
greekguy said:
If they want to come here so bad, why can't they just immigrate legally?

Because the US has immigration quotas and not unlimited immigration. Really, if people could immigrate legally, they would because it would be a hell of a lot easier than crossing a few thousand miles of deathly desert.
 
Vicente Fox figures that by moving his problems into my country, his problems will all be swept under the carpet.
It is easier to expel those unwanted rather than giving them a reason to stay home. This man thought that handing people paper(pamphlets) that tells you how to cross the border was a great idea.
 
CivGeneral said:
A right to bear arms and use them against other humans? I am sorry but I cannot shot and harm an innocent human being that breaks my own moral code on "Thou shall not kill".
Wait, you support the "right" to religious liberty and all that, yet you are against the right to self-defense?:crazyeye: Taking the anti-Catholic position on every issue again...

Perhaps if there are improvements with our border patrols and have outreach programs for poential immigrents to help them come to the US and become US citizens.
The border will not be protected as long as the Bush regime is in power. We are at the point where the only solution is to completely close the border to Mexico indefinitely.

They are not invading our country, they are comming here to seek jobs and a new opportunity for a better life. Personaly, I would like to see many of our illegal immigrents to have an opportunity to be educated to pass the citizenship exams and become American Citizens.
They are invading to annex American land as the new mestizo nation of Aztlan and commit ethnic cleansing against all peoples who are not part of "la raza."
 
Inqvisitor said:
Wait, you support the "right" to religious liberty and all that, yet you are against the right to self-defense?:crazyeye: Taking the anti-Catholic position on every issue again...

You're taking the anti-Catholic position. "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR", etc. etc.

Inqvisitor said:
They are invading to annex American land as the new mestizo nation of Aztlan and commit ethnic cleansing against all peoples who are not part of "la raza."

Inqvisitor, shut up about Aztlan already. Thanks to you, we now know they're a fringe group of people with a few nuts lose. Thanks, but we don't need you to continue repeating their rhetoric in buying into it. Every stop and consider that people like you make them justified in their own eyes?
 
blackheart said:
You're taking the anti-Catholic position. "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR", etc. etc.
Wow, you people are still taking the same exact out-of-context quote from the Bible and distorting it to fit just about any agenda...

Self-defense is not only allowed but is mandated for the sake of God and country.

Inqvisitor, shut up about Aztlan already. Thanks to you, we now know they're a fringe group of people with a few nuts lose. Thanks, but we don't need you to continue repeating their rhetoric in buying into it. Every stop and consider that people like you make them justified in their own eyes?
The Aztlan movement is a mainstream ideology of mestizo immigrants. MEChA can be found dominating mestizo students across the country. They are not at all the fringe of Mexican society in America. Assimilationists are the shunned minority of mestizo immigration, not the racist revolutionaries.

Slogan of MEChA:

"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."
For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."
 
Inqvisitor said:
Wow, you people are still taking the same exact out-of-context quote from the Bible and distorting it to fit just about any agenda...

Self-defense is not only allowed but is mandated for the sake of God and country.

Prove it.


Inqvisitor said:
The Aztlan movement is a mainstream ideology of mestizo immigrants. MEChA can be found dominating mestizo students across the country. They are not at all the fringe of Mexican society in America. Assimilationists are the shunned minority of mestizo immigration, not the racist revolutionaries.

Slogan of MEChA:

"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."
For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing."

bullfeathers. Prove that it is mainstream.
 
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