Svartalfar

Sureshot said:
id rather have forest invisibility and ambush every enemy, its not too great because if superior forces come they are likely to push your units out of the woods into adjacent tiles where the dark elves would be very vulnerable, but its neat and a flavourful

i dont think theyd need elven cottages and the like, but theyd need something to attach them to forests thats unique, and forest invisibility would do it, plus itd make them like spiders, and elven promotion so that the elf slayer works against them and give them mobility in woods.

I agree that the Svarts need a bonus in forests, but just giving them invisibility still doesn't seem right. The only difference between an invisible assassin and a visible one is that the enemy won't see it coming. The combat odds are the same, as is the unit targeted by Marksman, and unless you go worker-hunting, invisibility itself really doesn't help much. There's no strategy to it other than picking your targets without getting ambushed yourself.

I'd rather have the Svartalfar access invisibility through magic and summons (and maybe promotions), while the basic assassins get something else entirely. Maybe high-level assassins could get a promotion that grants invisibility while fortified (or in forests, as you said), but IMO invisibility should be used as a means, not an end.

I still like the distance system because it give under-used promotions a purpose (Spell Extension, Sentry, etc.), and it gives the Malakim a natural resistance to the Svartalfar because some of their units (the Lightbringer, at least) start with Sentry.
 
well, being invisible and attacking means afterwards you can heal without worrying of counter attack. giving them elven will provide a small defensive and offensive in woods as well, and if you grab woodsman 1 you can attack enemies in forests without worrying about their forest def

if they need more id say just add a first strike or two, or give them a leader with agg/rai :p
 
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