Term 1 - Nominations for Domestic Counsul

[mhcarver]

As MOTH requested, though a newbie to the Demogames, I was considering nominating myself. However, I was curious about game play and, in particular, are we to play this game as we would a single player game but with more input, or are we to play from the viewpoint of a citizen in the world we are creating? The answers to the questions posted here would change dramatically for me, since a citizen in the game world would likely have an agenda that might not necessarily coincide with the best strategy for winning a civ game.

I'll try to answer this to the best of my abilities

in my opinion, the game is usually played from the point of people trying to win a civ game. Typically you see the civ experts that know everything about the game plotting what to do based on the way civ works, not the way a citizen of the nation would do something,

 

[MOTH]

As MOTH requested, though a newbie to the Demogames, I was considering nominating myself. However, I was curious about game play and, in particular, are we to play this game as we would a single player game but with more input, or are we to play from the viewpoint of a citizen in the world we are creating? The answers to the questions posted here would change dramatically for me, since a citizen in the game world would likely have an agenda that might not necessarily coincide with the best strategy for winning a civ game.

Since you haven't decided yet, I will nominate you You just have to decide if you will accept the nomination.

We play as a single player game, but on the strategic level you need to determine the majority viewpoint and reconcile compromises in close calls. There is some element of "role playing" done as well. There will be some players who take the role of Dove or Hawk or who will take the honor of our nation to heart when making decisions. Decisions are sometimes made on these basis that are contrary to getting the highest score possible.

As for this position, it to lead and guide discussions and polling on Domestic Policies. The most important part of this in term 1 is Settlement paterns.

 

[Ulyaoth]

I accept my nomination.


1. How should cities be built, far spread, thin spread, or just near resources/good terrain?

We should build our first cities in good positions close to our capital, then build from the limits of what we think our boundaries will be, and fill in the spots.

2. Do we use the luxury slider(remember this is emperor) frequently?

If we are havnig trouble with unrest, we should use the slider, otherwise we should attempt to keep people happy without having to increase the slider.

3. Do you use Ring City Placement or not? (that is, will you use this tactic, and how/why?)

I don't use it, never saw the purpose, always prefered to just build where good terrrain was.

4. You have the perfect spot for a city in your sights that's about 5 cities down the pipe. Problem it, it has a volcano next to it. Do you take the risk to build it? Why or why not? What if it were a chokepoint/canal? Would the benefits still outweigh the risks? Remember, if there are ships in the city when the city is destroyed, the ships will be destroyed also.

I would build. Why? Because until the volcano erupts if will give a good power boost in that area. After the volcano we can just rebuild it. If it was a chokepoint/canal, then we shoulds still try to get it.

5. Do you advocate building inner cities first and expanding outward, or building far away positions first and filling in?

Outer cities first, fill in gaps.

 

[mhcarver]

Ulyaoth, currently you have announced plans to run for this and the external consul , You can only run for one position per term.

 

[MOTH]

@Ulyaoth,
You can only accept 1 nomination. You should decline either this one or the External Consul nomination. I forget which one will go through if you don't specify.

 

[Ulyaoth]

oh, sorry, I forgot. I'll decline this one then.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

I appreciate the nomination DS, but I must decline.

 

[Arphahat]

Since you haven't decided yet, I will nominate you You just have to decide if you will accept the nomination.

We play as a single player game, but on the strategic level you need to determine the majority viewpoint and reconcile compromises in close calls. There is some element of "role playing" done as well. There will be some players who take the role of Dove or Hawk or who will take the honor of our nation to heart when making decisions. Decisions are sometimes made on these basis that are contrary to getting the highest score possible.

As for this position, it to lead and guide discussions and polling on Domestic Policies. The most important part of this in term 1 is Settlement paterns.

As there does not seem to be much excitement about this position, for the good of the people, I will accept your nomination.

I am curious though, how are decisions made with regard to popular opinion? Is it expected that majority rules, or is the final decision made by the elected official? Also, what kind of time commitment does this take? I have been scanning through these forums and have been having a hard time figuring some of these things out.

 

[mhcarver]

Arphat, there is no simple answer to youer question about the deciscions because quite frankly were not always sure either. I'll try to put it like this. The president must follow the posted instructions of the leaders, the leaders must follow the Will of the people. many leaders determine the WOTP by posting discussions and polls since they are tasked with following the WOTP. not all leaders poll or post discussions(governors rarely poll anything) . I would like to point out a concerned citizen can post a poll on an issue if he/she believes that the leaders instructions are not the WOTP. for your second question the commitment level really depends on the position and I am not sure what will require more commitment since we are using a new government structure, though you may wish to commit several hours a week if you are in an elected position.

 

[Arphahat]

short term slider is the Director of Commerce, long term is going to be under this position

I am re-reading through the posts and was confused by this. Couldn't this mean a conflict about how the slider is going to move every turn?

 

[ravensfire]

Err, not really.

The Consul positions are the strategy leaders. They create the strategic goals, the broad plans that don't get into specifics. For the slider, this might be, keep science high to maximize research while still allowing for the occasional cash rush.

The Directors, or tactical leaders, create the specific instructions. They are limited to the plans posted by the Consuls, however. Continuing the example, the Director couldn't post instructions week after week with no science - the plans were for high research.

Basically (and very broadly speaking), Consuls determine what should happen, and might be looking 30-40 turns in the future, or more! Directors decide how to make those ideas happen, and look 5-15 turns into the future.

In all cases, discussions are held where all can participate. Polls are used where needed to resolve disputes and settle on courses of actions. The discussions the Consuls have are wide-ranging, but won't get into specifics of how to implement the plan. The discussions the Directors have are focused, however, and limited by the Strategic plans, but get into the details.

Does that help some?

-- Ravensfire

 

[Arphahat]

Yes, I think that does help. Thanks.