donsig said:
Dear Apalled,
Yes, this is quite fun. It is great to know we agree on something. I am sorry you were insulted when I said you don't have citizens rights in mind but you obviously don't. While it is not listed in our constitution a fundamental human right is the right to make up one's own mind, even if in doing so one makes a mistake. I am quite comfortable letting my fellow citizens make their own choices and have faith that if they do not always choose wisely they will at least recognize their mistakes and correct them. It seems to me that in your opinion our citizens are not to be trusted to make choices. It seems you feel our citizens should be treated like children who should be seen and not heard and who need decisons made for them, otherwise they would bring ruin upon themselves and their country. If I misunderstand your philosophy please enlighten me.
I did not mean to imply that you have less experience than Chieftess or myself. I would never do that. Since both Chieftess and I have been involved in the demogames since term one of the first Civ III DG (and you were not), I would have simply come out and said you had less experience than us if that had been my point. I did mean to imply that since Chieftess has been involved in so many demogames she should have known that what transpired at the last chat was wrong. I really do hope she will respond to the questions I posted earlier in this thread.
signed
donsig
an extremely concerned citizen
Dear Donsig(and Ravensfire, i answer his question in the letter too),
You should see the smile on my face, i haven't had this much fun in awhile. Now i don't see how i'm violating Human Rights. When have i stopped anyone from making up there mind? You made up your mind that you wished to call me out on this, I made up my mind that i would respond, the people at the turnchat made up there mind to do the trade, you made up your mind to write the first letter. I fail to see my human rights violation, but good try.
As for the citiziens rights violation, when did i ever try to protect the citiziens? I'm all for trial and error. In fact, I personally trust them enough to run for office, and then DO stuff in that office once their there. I trust them enough to listen to them. I trust them because we are all citiziens. I am, you are, we all are. An official is just a citizien trusted by the majority of citiziens. Trusted enough that authority is granted to them. Our citiziens are our country, they are our demogame.
For the Cheiftess Thing, it may have been wrong in your opinion, but you should let her make up her own mind, instead of assuming that since you have both been around long enough that your opinions must snych up. Delusions of Superiorty only create delusions.
And to ravensfire, in my opinion yes they were. If you go back and read the polls, our trading policy was decided so we wouldn't grow to powerful, powerful enough to be loathed. We clearly haven't. ANd i find two trades a minimal amount, so it fits there too. As for the Mongolian Classification, they were voted suspect because we know there was going to be eventual war. We didn't want to give them any advantages. Yet, by gaining Iron Working, we have allowed ourselves the ablility to build swordsman, and offensive unit, and have closed the gap between us and the Mongols. By getting IW without benifiting them militarily, we came out on top, and followed the citiziens will.
Sincerely,
Swissempire
Citizien who keeps upping Donsigs adjective
