The Greek diaspora in the pre-Hellenistic era

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This thread can be about the Diaspora (meaning dispersal in Greek) of the Hellenic people up to the age of Alexander the Great.

The most notable cities which founded colonies can be said to have been Megara, Athens and Corinth, although many notable colonies were created by other city-states.

The main reason for the creation of colonies seems to have been very similar to the later colonization of the Americas by western European nations, namely the lack of space in the original location where the states were, increasing trade and securing a more powerful position in the dynamics of the mainland.

Megara, which is a city located between Athens and Corinth, in a quite small strip of land between two bodies of water, was arguably one of the most prolific colonizing powers of the ancient Greek world. Among its most notable colonies were the Sicilian Megara Hyblaea and Selinos, the Bosporian (coastal eastern Thrace) Chalkydon and Byzantion (which later expanded and was renamed to Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire) the Asia Minor BlackSea coast colonies of Astacos and Bithenian Heraclea.

Corinth, somewhat similarly located to Megara but not quite as landlocked, also was an important naval and commercial power. Its earliest colony was Kerkyra, on the northermost island of the sea between Greece and Italy. It may be of interest to note that Kerkyra soon became independant, and in fact a great antagonist to Corinth. It is said that the first ever recorded naval battle between Greek powers was one between Corinth and Kerkyra. Moreover the rivalry was deemed as of importance to the start of the Peloponnesian war.
Other notable Corinthian colonies were in the eastern coast of the Adriatic, such as Epidamnos and Apollonia. However by far the most famous corinthian colony was the celebrated city of Syracuse, which played catalytic roles to both the outcome of the Peloponnesian war, and the defeat of Carthage's expansionism in Sicily.

Athens founded most notably the ancient city of Ephesos, on Ionia, the western coast of Asia Minor. Ephesos went on to become one of the most important Ionian states, home city of the philosopher Heraklitos, and where one of the seven wonders of the Greek world was built, the temple of Artemis. Ephesos would become part of Lydia for a short while under King Croesus, but then revolted along with the other Ionian cities against the following Persian rule. Athens gave help to that revolt, which was crucial to the start of the Greek and Persian conflicts. Although those conflicts would only be concluded with the victory of Alexander the Great's expedition, the Ionian states had been already freed from Persian rule before that, and entered the Delian League, an alliance heavily controlled by Athens.
Other colonies of note by Athens were Thurioi, in Italy, and Amphipolis in coastal Macedonia, which later on was one of the important Hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine cities of the region.

Among the famous and notable colonies settled by other city-states were Taras (Tarentum in Latin) which was created by Sparta, Neapolis (today known as Napoli, in southern Italy), Massalia (in coastal southern France), Cyrene in northern Egypt (the whole region was called Cyrenaica after it), Emporion (now known as Ampurias) in southern Spain, Theodosia and Chersonesos in the southermost part of the Crimean coast, and Tomis (now known as Constanta, in coastal Romania).

Thank you for taking the time to read this short article. Any improvements to it are welcome. I hope it was not utterly apparent that i myself am not very familiar with this particular subject in a way which greatly exceeds a basic knowledge of it. Nevertheless i do hope that the article can be seen as somewhat of use :)

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I never knew Syracuse was a Corinthian colony. I've always wondered which city originally established it. Interesting article. So the Greeks never established any colonies past the Pillars of Hercules, or in Africa west of Cyrenaica? I would wonder why not, since the Phoenicians did.
 
I never knew Syracuse was a Corinthian colony. I've always wondered which city originally established it. Interesting article. So the Greeks never established any colonies past the Pillars of Hercules, or in Africa west of Cyrenaica? I would wonder why not, since the Phoenicians did.

Thanks :)

Although already since the mythical circle of Heracles (Hercules in latin) that hero is supposed to have went further than the pillars of Heracles (named after him, since in the myth it was originally a continuous land-mass, which Heracles carved up and created the pillars) it is possible that there is not any actual historically established travel by a notable number of Greeks past those pillars, until the age of Pytheas from Massalia (4rth century BC). No colony seems to ever have been established by Greeks past the pillars either, although southern Iberia even past the pillars was for a time under Byzantine control after the conquest by Justinian.

Carthage being in the western part of northern Africa was crucial in no Greek colonies being established there. Carthage later on, as briefly mentioned in the OP, fought against Greeks in Sicily, and was defeated from an alliance led by Syracuse.
 
Good little article. One thing that always interested me that might be worth discussing is the ties between the colony and the homeland. I only really know this from the Peloponnesian War, but a lot of the interactions in Sicily and Magna Graeca were justified by their ties to their mother city. Athens was coming to support Athenian colonies, if I'm not mistaken. Either way, Syracuse was seen as pro-Spartan because of its Corinthian connection. However, from the colony's perspective, it's not entirely clear that Syracuse wanted to be involved at all as war with Athens was an unneeded distraction from their goal of Sicilian hegemony (although, given the fluid state of popular democracies at the time, I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few wanted to join the war as well).
 
Thank you Louis XXIV :)

I have seen it argued that often the colonies grew largely independent of the mother city very soon. I am not sure myself what the actual norm was... It has been pointed out to me that Kerkyra, the former colony of Corinth, actually later on co-founded some of the Corinthian colonies (at least the two main ones in the Illyrian coast).

Sadly Dachs Soter does not seem to wish to participate in the thread, at least not yet- he probably would have been of help in clearing that issue :)
 
I never knew Syracuse was a Corinthian colony.

Were they ever under any Corinthian influence before Timoleon liberated Greek Sicily under control of Carthage?
 
it is possible that there is not any actual historically established travel by a notable number of Greeks past those pillars, until the age of Pytheas from Massalia (4rth century BC). No colony seems to ever have been established by Greeks past the pillars either

Euthymenes of Massilia was said by later roman sources, to have explored a portion of the western coast of Africa as far back as the 6th century BD, preceding Hanno.

The greks tried to settle in North Africa west of Cyrenaica: the greek colony of Cinips was founded in Tripolitania in the 6th century, near Leptis Magna, and taken by Cartage in the 5th century. But that is the only example I know of. The Phoenicians had a big headstart in Western Africa and the Iberian Peninsula, the greeks probably didn't bother even trying to compete there. Carthage just inherited the whole area of influence after Tyre collapsed.
 
Euthymenes of Massilia was said by later roman sources, to have explored a portion of the western coast of Africa as far back as the 6th century BD, preceding Hanno.

The greks tried to settle in North Africa west of Cyrenaica: the greek colony of Cinips was founded in Tripolitania in the 6th century, near Leptis Magna, and taken by Cartage in the 5th century. But that is the only example I know of. The Phoenicians had a big headstart in Western Africa and the Iberian Peninsula, the greeks probably didn't bother even trying to compete there. Carthage just inherited the whole area of influence after Tyre collapsed.

I could not find any city called 'Cinips' (in fact the google search for it has this very thread as the first hit...)

From the wiki article on Tripolitania:

wiki said:
The city of Oea, on the site of modern Tripoli, was founded by the Phoenicians in the 7th century BC. It was conquered by the Greek rulers of Cyrenaica, who were in turn displaced by the Carthaginians. The Greek name Τρίπολις "three cities" referred to Oea, Sabratha and Leptis Magna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripolitania
 
I could not find any city called 'Cinips' (in fact the google search for it has this very thread as the first hit...)

If it isn't in wikipedia it doesn't exist! :p

Google hasn't yet sucked in the whole of human knowlege, not finding it there doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Spartan colonists tried to settle near Leptis Magna, the name I've read for that city is Cinips, but it may well be known in the Internet by other names. Or not at all.

edit: Actually there are a few references to be found, like in this page dedicated to the Leptis Magna archeological museum:

The Greek invasions of Crete and Rhodes of the 9th century BC were shortly followed by their invasions of Egypt and Libya. Archaeology and history provide ample evidence of their colonies in Cyrenaica, Eastern Libya. But also there was a failed attempt to colonise Tripolitania on the hands of Dorieus the king of Sparta. Apparently, he reached as far west as River Cinyps, also known as Wadi Ka'am (Wadi Caam), just east of Leptis Magna, where he founded a city by that name. However, the Greeks were not welcomed by the local Carthaginians (Berbers & Phoenicians) and subsequently were driven out of the area after a short stay of three years. The archaeological finds of Wadi Caam have uncovered a Greek necropolis area dating to the 3rd century BC, consisting of a series of stone, box-shaped urns containing ashes and bones, with the lids in the shape of a sloping roof, as well as various classes of pottery and tableware.

Hopefully the latest imperial adventure in Africa hasn't yet wiped out what remains of the place.
 
However, Cinyps is not the same, and it exists as a reference in many places, but not as a city. It was the name of a river where Greek colonists tried to settle, but never managed to. It seems from various other sources online that the claim you linked to that the city was actually ever founded, is most probably not that trustworthy.

Still i wish to thank you for your post, which led all of us to discover the story of Cinyps :)
 
However, Cinyps is not the same, and it exists as a reference in many places, but not as a city. It was the name of a river where Greek colonists tried to settle, but never managed to. It seems from various other sources online that the claim you linked to that the city was actually ever founded, is most probably not that trustworthy.

Still i wish to thank you for your post, which led all of us to discover the story of Cinyps :)

It is the same, the colony is known by the same name as the river. It it had another it's probably lost. :( It was destroyed but per that page there is archeological evidence that a colony existed there before being destroyed by carthagian forces.
 
Maybe :)

It seems that the only notable colonies by Sparta was Taras, in Italy, and Knidos in Caria (in Asia Minor). The story of Cinyps echoes a bit the story of another spartan settlement, the Heraclea in Trachis, which was installed during the Peloponnesian war, near Thermopylae. The city was founded to serve the Spartan plans in the war, but soon it was reduced by an alliance of other Greek powers, most notably Thessaly. It seems to have lasted for around six years.

A bit similar to the founding of Megalopolis in Arcadia, by the Thebans and general Epaminondas, to serve as an antagonist to Sparta. Megalopolis was destroyed too, but more than an aeon after it was founded, and then was quickly rebuilt. It still exists today as a small town :)
 
I think this might be the appropriate thread for a little area's history I have always found difficult researching and implementing in a EU3 mod I participate in.

The area is Yedisan on the Northwestern Black sea coastline near the present day city of Odessa in Ukraine. (map for reference)

What was the historical Greek involvement and settlement in the region, and how long did it survive for? How much influence did the former Greek colonization have in later history of the region?

This region as far as I know following the mild research I've done, was kind of barren and devoid of life before the establishment of Odessa and was only notable for having a castle of sorts controlled by the Ottoman Empire and having the Nogai Horde settle on it for a while.
 
From some bits i managed to find it seems that in that area there were at least two Greek colonies, Tyras and Pontic Olbia.

It is, it seems, more in contention if the actual main city of the region, Odessa, was in effect very near- or an expansion of- the ancient Greek colony of Odessos. Other sources seem to place Odessos near Varna, in what today is coastal Bulgaria. It is possible- although i do not know anything about it- that more than one cities by that name existed, as it was very common for Greek colonies to have the same name, in which case they also featured a clear toponym alongside the city-name (eg Megara Hyblaea, Pontic Olbia etc).

I also managed to find- but not check much else about it- that the Byzantines called the region as Maurocastron, which means "Black castle".
 
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