The Japanese War: Should we continue?

[Chieftess]

Actually, a whimpering Japanese Chin might be more like it. (the Japanese version of the Pekinese).

Or, a whimpering Akita.

 

[Eklektikos]

Originally posted by Chieftess
Actually, a whimpering Japanese Chin might be more like it. (the Japanese version of the Pekinese).

Or, a whimpering Akita.

I prefer to think of them as having been "Moogled"

And yes, I agree that we should continue this war until we get a Great Leader. That will, I think, be easier if we do not reduce their production base much further, since we will want to fight as many battles as possible in order to maximise our chances. We just need to make sure that we are always the ones doing the attacking.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

I have finally obtained a copy of the save(couldn't retrieve from server) and will give my assessments on this war later today.

 

[eyrei]

My only concern with continuing this war is that our eastern border remains nearly undefended. I say we try to finish this war primarily with the troops already assigned to it, and send most new ones to the east.

 

[Cyc]

I agree for the most part. We have the Elites in the West and that's where we need them. New Knights can go to the East and the South.

 

[Octavian X]

Considering the Japanese have yet to launch a meaningful counter attack, I would disagree with eyrei's fear of an undefended front. We should keep the elites attacking whenever possible. Perhaps we could also consider sending some elites down to Xerxes' place to get a GL down there.

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by Octavian X
Considering the Japanese have yet to launch a meaningful counter attack, I would disagree with eyrei's fear of an undefended front. We should keep the elites attacking whenever possible. Perhaps we could also consider sending some elites down to Xerxes' place to get a GL down there.

You must have misread my post. I want most troops sent to the South and East to defend against other civs. The Japanese have not threatened us much at all.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

After looking everything over, here are my thoughts:


1. Reinstate the Roman alliance against Persia. I know it sounds like a bad idea on the surface given their past reputation. However, I don't think we should turn away any help against Persia, no matter how fickle. Plus, this alliance would be accepted by Rome with no strings attached. I don't think prolonging the war will be an issue because Caesar will probably back out before the duration of our other alliances anyway.

2. The time to protect the east is now. All new units should head east through Padmativa. We should send the horse near New PDX south as a sentry immediately, and we should rush build the knights in Strider's Haven and the Burrow the moment our horseman meets up with the Persians.

3. As for our Japan offensive, I agree that the war should continue. I recommend that we once again set our sights on Tokyo --- followed by Nara. If we use the two knights from Kells and at least two from Hakodate, we should be able to launch a strong enough attack on both cities at once. I am working on a map for this and should have it posted by 2pm GMT tomorrow. I will obviously try to make it public earlier.

@eyrei, before we take Nara, we may want to consider whether we should take the city or spare it in favor of a peace deal where we get Kagoshima and hopefully at least 3 eastern towns. I defer to your experience here.

4. Let's send our 2 elite swordsmen stationed in Ise to Novgorod(the wounded sword just south can stand guard). They can attack in 4 turns and will increase our chances of getting a GL. Send a horseman or two along just in case we have an opportunity to take the town.



This war with Japan will be over in 4-6 turns and should hopefully leave only Nara or Kagoshima in Japan's possession. Then, as 50-60% of our offense heads back east toward Persia(or America?), we should take a little detour to a little forgotten burg known as Xochicalco.

More later......please discuss my plans

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Little burg of Xochicalco. I , Gov of Rhineland (it would fall under my control) like that. The Green blob is starting to annoy me

 

[Octavian X]

eyrei, I apoligize. I interpreted your post as meaning sending troops to the Japanese front, and support the idea of reinforcing our borders. Does the military department think it prudent to remove defensive troops from the center of Fanatika, for placement on the borders.

 

[GenMarshall]

Originally posted by Donovan Zoi
1. Reinstate the Roman alliance against Persia. I know it sounds like a bad idea on the surface given their past reputation. However, I don't think we should turn away any help against Persia, no matter how fickle. Plus, this alliance would be accepted by Rome with no strings attached. I don't think prolonging the war will be an issue because Caesar will probably back out before the duration of our other alliances anyway.

I beleve we should continue the Alliance with rome against Persia

2. The time to protect the east is now. All new units should head east through Padmativa. We should send the horse near New PDX south as a sentry immediately, and we should rush build the knights in Strider's Haven and the Burrow the moment our horseman meets up with the Persians.

I beleve this is unessicary since we are not at war against anyone but the Japanese on the western side. Tough 3 Pikemens and some catapults would do the trick for the east

3. As for our Japan offensive, I agree that the war should continue. I recommend that we once again set our sights on Tokyo --- followed by Nara. If we use the two knights from Kells and at least two from Hakodate, we should be able to launch a strong enough attack on both cities at once. I am working on a map for this and should have it posted by 2pm GMT tomorrow. I will obviously try to make it public earlier.

Lets pool all of the local military units around that area that is not o garrison duty to attack Tokyo (Hmm, Kind of early to do the General Dolittle bomber attack on tokyo of 1942 )

4. Let's send our 2 elite swordsmen stationed in Ise to Novgorod(the wounded sword just south can stand guard). They can attack in 4 turns and will increase our chances of getting a GL. Send a horseman or two along just in case we have an opportunity to take the town.

I disagree on sending the two swordsmen to Novgorod. Its quite far for them to go. I strongly suggest that we send the Swordsmen to Kyoto to heal.

-Grand Admrial CivGeneral

 

[donsig]

We should continue. We need a great leader. Were we to get one I would make peace so we can decide who our next victim will be...

 

[eyrei]

In my opinion, we should take all Japanese cities except for Toyama, and then decide whether we should eliminate them or not. While they are willing to part with their smaller cities now, they are intent on holding their larger ones. These will likely need to be taken by force.

However, reinforcing our current borders (east and southwest) should precedance over the conquest of Japan.

 

[Falcon02]

If we can get a Great Leader out of this war, that would be GREAT!!! we just need to make sure we manage the units we send in to improve our chances, make sure the Elites get shots at winning battles as much as possible, and when an Elite isn't avalible for a situation try to use Vets to create more elites. (just the basic GL stradegy most vet Civ III players probobly know).

Civ General... I don't see a major connection except an assault on Tokyo, but that's besides the point ;-)

 

[Donovan Zoi]

It is clear that most everyone feels this war should continue until Japan is left with one city at the most. I have started a thread stating my military objectives for this turnchat. Please continue our discussion here:

The Fall of Japan

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Actually, as posted above, I feel we should continue the war until we generate Great Leader, and then empower our President to make peace if the deal is good at that point.