The Lurid Livonians - An EU2 AAR

Brandenburg is the leader. So I will make peace with them as the last nation :).
 
What nation should I play as using the AGCEEP mod? I fancy something different, I have played as England, Milan, Byzantine Empire, Aragon, Austria and Friesland.
 
Russia in Reformation scenario is neat. When you think your country is in good shape, others are beaten and you have tons of money, suddenly Boris Godunov appears with horrible events.

Also try Bohemia and Poland. Bohemia has a civil war at the start, and Poland fights against Russia and Orders. Ottomans are good if you want to kick some Mediterranean a**.
 
Dell19 said:
Brandenberg is pretty fun to play as.
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Seconded. Savoy and Lorraine is also a good choice. If you want a challenge, try Granada.

Update comming up soon!
 
von der Recke was sent to Västergötland in the autumn of 1553 to initiate a siege there. On his way, the Sweden fleet in the Sund sailed away to the waters outside Gästrikland. Therefore the Livonian fleet was sent to patrol in The Sund. This revealed that Cleves was sending all their troops from Holstein to Mecklenburg. von der Recke was issued order to go back to Småland, and embark onto the Livonian fleet. The 29k army from Cleves was actually sent to liberate Danzig, which I didn't see coming. However, von der Recke was already besieging Holstein. Holstein was captured after only four months. Seeing this, the army from Cleves retreated from the siege of Danzig, and went back to their capital. Even if both Danzig and Holstein was under Livonian control, the warscore was only 34% (Danizg "required" 36%). Therefore it was no surprise that Cleves rejected my offer to keep Danzig in a peace deal. However, one month later this message arrived:

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Finally :hammer: !! The first of 3 CoT's around the Baltic Sea is now under Livonian control. With Cleves out of the war, von der Recke is sent back to Sweden. The plan is to finish of the Swedes before Brandenburg. Hanover isn't engaging in the war, so I will leave them alone. The only drawback with getting Danzig, is that Poland will have a permanent casus belli against me, since they have a claim on Danzig.

von der Recke is sent back to Memel to reinforce his army. With Danzig under my control, Brandenburg made that province their primary target. Sweden managed to capture Gästrikland, so they moved on to Småland to besiege it. Nyland was also under siege. Even if the Livonian Order was under heavy pressure from Sweden and Brandenburg at land, the Livonian fleet made things balance out: They started to win naval engagements against the Swedish fleet (which also had a leader). The last Swedish ship was sunk in 1556, and the Swedish leader followed it to the bottom of the Baltic Sea.

Before von der Recke was sent back to Sweden, Småland was captured by the Swedes. von der Recke was therefore directly unloaded into Småland to liberate it. However, both Nyland and Danzig fell under enemy control in 1556. I don't mind what Brandenburg are doing, but it is annoying that the Swedes captures provinces at a faster rate than I am.

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Siege in Småland, Danzig and Nyland​

In the following years the Swedes captured a lot of Livonian provinces - in addition to Småland, Gästrikland and Nyland, Kola and Kexholm was captured too. They had a leader which made it possible to assault provinces successfully. Even if the Order also had a skilled leader, I decided not to assault, just to save troops. In 1556 was Småland liberated, so von der Recke was sent first to Västergötland to capture it, and then to Svealand.

After some skirmishes vs Swedish armies, von der Recke captured Svealand and liberated Gästrikland in 1560. Warscore was still too low to get Västergötland in a peace deal. van der Recke was therefore sent to Nyland to liberate it. The Swedish armies was fortunately idle in Bergslagen, even if all my troops were out of Swedens heartland. In 1561 two good things happened to the Order: A manufactory was built in Kola by event, and Nyland was liberated. This gave me enough warscore to secure Västergötland!

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Finally access to Skagerakk​

With Sweden out of the war, only Brandenburg (and Hanover) remained. I minted ducats for some months to reinforce the army, so there were no engagements between the Order and Brandenburg. Skåne was under my control, while Danzig was controlled by Brandenburg. von der Recke embarked onto the Livonian fleet and was sent to Hinterpommern. Forces from Brandenburg tried numerous times to kick me out, but von der Recke managed to keep them at bay. Hinterpommern was captured in 1565. von der Recke was then sent to Danzig to liberate it. Brandenburg had 12k men there, but they were routed after the first fight. Finally, in 1567, Danzig was liberated. Tired from a war that had lasted 16 years, Brandenburg offered me Skåne and Hinterpommern. I accepted without hesitation.

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Is nice! I like!​

17 years in war had been tough for the Order. Warexhaustion was skyhigh, and there were many rebels besieging provinces in the realm. However, it was definitely worth it: 4 new provinces added to the Livonian realm, and one of them a CoT. The Order have now also access to all areas in the Baltic Sea (except the most northern, which is useless anyway).
 
Yay! Now you must create land connections between the different sections of the empire.
 
What is your BB?

I suggest not declaring wars. When Swedes attack us next time, I think we should also be aware of Russian troops moving across our borders. They may be surprising.
 
Yeah, my next targets are Prussia, Bergslagen, Väster- and Österbotten. Novgorod and Pskov is still on the list.

Infrastructure level 4 is soon reached. Do you promote Legal Judges? I'm a bit unsure if I will, they cost so much to promote. Do they increase income a lot?

Edit: BB is 10.3, so it isn't so bad. But I will not declare war for a while. Russia is always a danger. However, they are struggling in the east, so hopefully they won't attack me before they are "finished" in the east.
 
I promote Legal Judges if I have spare money. Was their profit "less rebels and more tax?" I remember that they don't increase a lot, but they're useful in conquered cities, though they need a tax collector first, which brings 3+ to revolt risk.

What is your yearly income and inflation? I thought that you could promote some Judges with your yearly income, though at zero inflation they cost 100 ducats. Governors with level 6 are sooo useful, they make inflation smaller!
 
Legal Judges will give +1 tax income and -1 revoltrisk, if I remember correctly. I think I will promote some, and see if they give bigger census taxes.

When I checked the inflation and income, a horrible event was triggered (-500 ducats + more). I will show this event in the next update. Inflation was only 2.6%, while income was a bit difficult to tell. Loan interests was -6.2 ducats per month (had to take 3 loans to pay for the event), so it will be hard to get the economy rolling again. By the way, Governors come at level 5 :). I will promote these in every province.
 
In 1567 a horrible event triggered for the Livonian Order. I felt that this event gave very harsh conditions for the Order in an unlogical way. I therefore decided to delete the event, since it would have ruined the game. The spoiler below shows the event.

Spoiler :
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Code: 
#(1560-1590) The Fate of the Livonian Order
#Raudex-EEP version
event = {
	id = 3620
	trigger = {
		exists = POL
		exists = SWE
		exists = DAN
		exists = RUS
		atwar = no
		NOT = { exists = KUR }
	}
	random = no
	country = LIV
	name = "EVENTNAME3620" #The Fate of the Livonian Order
	desc = "EVENTHIST3620"
	#-#Following Russian attacks in the 1550's, and out of collapse of the Livonian Order, Master Gotthard Ketteler salvaged Kurland from the Order's territory as a secular duchy under Polish sovereignty. This vassalage brought Poland into conflict with Russia, allied with Denmark and started the 1563-1570 War of the Three Crowns against Sweden. At the 1582 armistice of Jan Zapolski, Russia was beaten, gave up Livland and Polotsk and Sweden won the Baltic province of Estland while Livland and Kurland remained under Polish control. My Lord, you may transform into Kurland and give Livland and Estland away in any of the two agreements, of you may revert to Catholicism and again grab the Armed Glove of the True Faith.

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1560 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1590 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3620A" #Polish-Swedish Agreement
		command = { type = removecore which = 276 } #Estland
		command = { type = removecore which = 282 } #Livland
		command = { type = removecore which = 275 } #Ingermanland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 276 } #Estland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 275 } #Ingermanland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 252 } #Småland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 253 } #Västergötland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 257 } #Bergslagen
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 260 } #Lappland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 263 } #Österbotten
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 264 } #Tavastland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 265 } #Nyland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 273 } #Savolaks
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 341 } #Västerbotten
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 342 } #Finland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 1469 } #Gästrikland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 262 } #Kola
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 266 } #Kexholm
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 267 } #Olonets
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 269 } #Arkhangelsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 274 } #Novgorod
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 1470 } #Karelia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 251 } #Skåne
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 307 } #Sjælland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 308 } #Gotland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 309 } #Jylland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 255 } #Østlandet
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 256 } #Bergenshus
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 258 } #Trøndelag
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 259 } #Narvik
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 261 } #Finnmark
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 381 } #Jämtland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWE value = 1466 } #Iceland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 278 } #Tver
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 277 } #Pskov
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 292 } #Podlasia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 291 } #Masovia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 297 } #Podolia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 298 } #Galizien
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 299 } #Krakow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 300 } #Wielkopolska
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 303 } #Poznan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 279 } #Tula
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 280 } #Welikia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 284 } #Belarus
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 286 } #Kursk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 287 } #Mozyr
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 288 } #Lithuania
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 293 } #Volyn
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 294 } #Chernigov
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 295 } #Ukraina
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 296 } #Jedisan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 450 } #Belgorod
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 461 } #Poltava
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 462 } #Krementjug
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 268 } #Vologda
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 270 } #Moscow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 272 } #Nizhgorod
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 282 } #Livland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 281 } #Polotsk
		command = { type = flagname which = "" }
		command = { type = country which = KUR }
		command = { type = treasury value = 500 }
		command = { type = stability value = 6 }
		command = { type = independence which = PRU }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3470 } #POL: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3220 } #SWE: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3290 } #DAN: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3407 } #RUS: The Fate of the Livonian Order
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3620B" #Russo-Danish Agreement
		command = { type = removecore which = 276 } #Estland
		command = { type = removecore which = 282 } #Livland
		command = { type = removecore which = 275 } #Ingermanland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 276 } #Estland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 275 } #Ingermanland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 282 } #Livland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 281 } #Polotsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 252 } #Småland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 253 } #Västergötland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 257 } #Bergslagen
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 260 } #Lappland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 263 } #Österbotten
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 264 } #Tavastland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 265 } #Nyland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 273 } #Savolaks
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 341 } #Västerbotten
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 342 } #Finland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 1469 } #Gästrikland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 262 } #Kola
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 266 } #Kexholm
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 267 } #Olonets
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 269 } #Arkhangelsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 274 } #Novgorod
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 1470 } #Karelia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 251 } #Skåne
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 254 } #Svealand
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 308 } #Gotland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 309 } #Jylland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 255 } #Østlandet
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 256 } #Bergenshus
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 258 } #Trøndelag
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 259 } #Narvik
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 261 } #Finnmark
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 381 } #Jämtland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = DAN value = 1466 } #Iceland
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 297 } #Podolia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 298 } #Galizien
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 299 } #Krakow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 300 } #Wielkopolska
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 303 } #Poznan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 279 } #Tula
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 280 } #Welikia
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 284 } #Belarus
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 286 } #Kursk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 287 } #Mozyr
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 288 } #Lithuania
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 293 } #Volyn
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 294 } #Chernigov
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 295 } #Ukraina
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 296 } #Jedisan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 450 } #Belgorod
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 461 } #Poltava
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 462 } #Krementjug
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 268 } #Vologda
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 270 } #Moscow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 272 } #Nizhgorod
		command = { type = flagname which = "" }
		command = { type = country which = KUR }
		command = { type = treasury value = 500 }
		command = { type = stability value = 6 }
		command = { type = independence which = PRU }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3471 } #POL: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3221 } #SWE: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3291 } #DAN: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3408 } #RUS: The Fate of the Livonian Order
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3620C" #Die-Hard Independence
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
		command = { type = religion which = catholic }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 3 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3472 } #POL: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3222 } #SWE: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3292 } #DAN: The Fate of the Livonian Order
		command = { type = trigger which = 3409 } #RUS: The Fate of the Livonian Order
	}
}
As you can see, the event triggered just because I'm the Livonian Order, and because it's between 1560 and 1590. I have not fought Russia for many years, and the Order is definitively not collapsing. It was perhaps a bit gamey to delete the event, but hey, I hope this AAR wouldn't be ruined because of events like that :).


With 3 new rich provices under Livonian control (Västergötland wasn't so very rich), the Order recieved a much needed economic recovery. With high revoltrisk and low stability, the income had barely covered the expenses during the 17 years war. In the budget, stability was recieving funds for some years. With increasing income, the bailiffs in the 4 new provinces were promoted. In 1570 revolrisk was finally at 0% in the core provinces. The only sad thing that happened during these years was this:

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Nein!​

In 1575 infrastructure level 4 was reached. This was not the most important in this year though: Lappland revolted from Sweden to Norway on the first of November. This was a great insult for Sweden, so they Dow'ed Norway 45 days later. Denmark joined Norways side. Knowing that this would weaken the Denmark-Norway alliance greatly, I decided to take the Order to war again. Merchants was sent to Sjælland until Denmark refused them to enter anymore. With a new CB in box, the Livonian army embarked onto the fleet. War was declared on Denmark on the first of September 1576. Norway joined the war on Denmarks side. Denmark had land tech level 14 (new CRT level), while I was still on level 13. Therefore land combats were avoided until the Order had reached level 14 as well. Fortunately Denmark had no troops in Jutland, so the Livonian army disembarked into that province. The Danish fleet was idle in the port in Sjælland. Jutland was besieged for about a year until it was captured. Then the Livonian army was transported to Skåne. Poland, which was not invited to the war, was apparently eager to do some fighting. Therefore this happened in January 1578:

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20k men from Poland on their way to Küstrin​

I accepted to join, and Sweden, Cleves and Hanover joined Brandenburgs side. I was really not ready for a new Baltic war, so I didn't plan to get any provinces from Sweden. Fortunately was Poland beating Brandenburg pretty well, so peace was offered 8 months later, giving Poland and the Order 78 ducats. That was just in time, since Cleves was almost finished liberating Jutland. With things back in control, the Livonian army in Skåne was ordered to attack Sjælland and the 13k men there. Halfways on their way, land tech level 14 was reached. The Danish army was beaten after a hard fight. Sjælland was besieged while the Livonian fleet blockaded the port. After 6 moths Sjælland was under control, and 100% warscore was achieved. I offered Denmark to keep Jutland and grant them the honour to be my vassals, but they refused (it was a 92% offer). The reason why they refused was most probably beacuse they still had a ally in the war: Norway. The Livonian army was then transported to Østlandet, and started the besieging. After some minor skirmishes, Østlandet was captured. Norway had managed to get Gästrikland under their control, so it was still more work to do for the army. Finally, in 1582, Gästrikland was liberated and Norway accepted peace giving me (only) 75 ducats. 1 month later peace was again offered to Denmark, and this time they accepted! A new province and vassal for the Livonian Order :).

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Yet another province added to the Orders realm​

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Here is a short summary of the Orders income (1st of January 1583)​
 
Good that you got Denmark under your control. They can become quite a power in the later game.
 
This is some good read, keep it up!
 
Could you post the Comparison? You could list them by wealth, so we could see are you in the major financial powers. Most great powers are rich, so we could see other great power's land tech and naval tech.
 
chrisrossi: I hope to annex Denmark as soon as possible. Getting a new CoT under Livonian control would be nice :).

Gelion: Thanks! :)

Hitti-Litti: For a comparison, do you mean like the income-comparison at page 1? And great powers - those around the Baltic or powers as France, Spain, Austria and England?
 
Oh, I thought of the comparison in post 19 :).

I will make a new one - hope to make it ready tomorrow!
 
Here is a comparison table for income and tech levels:

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Doesn't look too bad really. The Order is richer than its neighbours (except Russia!), which is the most important thing. Spain is a bit scary though, but I have no plans attacking them (yet) :D.
 
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