The poll to stop any other hitler threads.

Hitler should be in future incarnations of the civilization series.

  • Yes

    Votes: 134 48.2%
  • No

    Votes: 144 51.8%

  • Total voters
    278
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Nufuhsus said:
Well if there is no sarcasim in your statement I would then ask why would you want to do that as it sounds horid.

What?

Those are very nice and respectable names. What kind of baggage do you have with them? They are just names.
 
drkodos said:
What?

Those are very nice and respectable names. What kind of baggage do you have with them? They are just names.
True. No baggage claim ticket here. I just think they don't sound very good together. Why not Adolf Lucas Berkowitz?
 
Nufuhsus said:
True. No baggage claim ticket here. I just think they don't sound very good together. Why not Adolf Lucas Berkowitz?


Do you think Bundy would be a cute name for a baby girl? I think its adorable.





I also wonder if Roman Polanski is a big fan of Marilyn Manson.
 
drkodos said:
Do you think Bundy would be a cute name for a baby girl? I think its adorable.





I also wonder if Roman Polanski is a big fan of Marilyn Manson.
Baby Bundy Bonnett Manson??
 
drkodos said:
Look at the timeline you posited.

What's the problem? My point was that the Adolf honored in the naming would have no connection to Nazi Germany, having immigrated to America long before.


drkodos said:
Please inform me of modern jews in western world that currently give the name Adolf to their children.

Adolf

I don't know any, but the Jews I know are of Russian/Slavic not German ancestry. I'm not arguing that it's a common name for either Jews or Gentiles, or that it should be, only that unlike Adolf Sirhan Oswald*, the simple name Adolf would not prove to me a fondness for Hitler. I'm not saying I wish it was my name, or that Hitler and Eichmann wouldn't come to mind every time I heard the name..



drkodos said:
How about of New Yorker named their child Osama Bin Curran? You do not think that would have some level of controvesy surrounding it and that people might be taken aback somewhat by having to keep saying that name AND that child might be the target of derision and the focal point of retributive actions?

I said nothing of the sort. I doubt there will be an American baby named Osama for a generation at least, and I have heard of some Muslim Americans changing their name from Osama. But if I meet a young Osama 60 years from now, I may not hold it against him.

drkodos said:
Nikkah please.

wiki tells me Nikkah is part of an Islamic wedding (it also sounds Yiddish, I really only know cursing). I'll let you spell out for me what you're referring to rather than guess.

drkodos said:
And you are not annoying me so much as keeping me coming back to see what other interesting tidbits might be proffered. :)

Good to hear. Maybe we're just both grouchy old men.

*Since you say you imply nothing with the name Adolf Sirhan Oswald and you've given me no reason to doubt you, I'll point out that Sirhan Sirhan and Lee Harvey Oswald are hated for murdering the beloved, almost sainted Kennedy brothers. That might explain peoples' confusion and why they thought you were being sarcastic. Extra credit: John Wilkes Booth killed Abe Lincoln.
 
a4phantom said:
Extra credit: John Wilkes Booth killed Abe Lincoln.


So now I need to keep a weary and suspecting eye of the relatively unknown actor Boothe Powers as well?

a4phantom said:
I don't know any, but the Jews I know are of Russian/Slavic not German ancestry. I'm not arguing that it's a common name for either Jews or Gentiles, or that it should be, only that unlike Adolf Sirhan Oswald*, the simple name Adolf would not prove to me a fondness for Hitler. I'm not saying I wish it was my name, or that Hitler and Eichmann wouldn't come to mind every time I heard the name
Bold emphasis mine

What I emboldend in your quote is the underpinnings of my previous point. Anyone naming a child Adolf today, even as an homage to a deceased jewsih gandfather, would certainly realize this connection. Thus, if they were to move forward with this, it would be a very questionable thing to do and the people around them, friends, family, rabbi, would all counsel against it.

Upon their insistance of the name, it would cause tremendous conflict in that family.


NOW, if the mere name of Adolf would elicit such reaction, imagine a game in which one could become Hitler and then successfully rule the world?


Once people see the ineveitable conclusion of their actions and proceed anyway despite the negative outcome, that is called callous disregard. These people need be treated as if they were lepers in the 19th century. Do what the Amish do to undesirables. Excommunication.


I am appreciative to have such a thread to practice and hone my bloviating, pontificating, and self rightiousness. I would like to thank the members of the Academy, all the racists, Neo-Nazis and skinheads out there that have made this possible.


And now like MacArthur, I will threaten to return.
 
And don't forget Henry Winkler...well Wilkes, Winkler...Close enough, right?
 
Hi, my name is Reltih Floda. I know I look familiar, but I am not who you think I am.



I just noticed that in the right light if you squint, the letters "exe" look just like a swastika.
 
Hitler and Goering were arguing about the Jews, Goering stating that they were quite clever people and Hitler vehemently denying they were any such thing.

Finally Goering told Hitler that they should go out in the city and Goering would show Hitler it was true. Hitler agreed, so they disguised themselves and went out on the street.

Goering took Hitler into a shop, went up to the counter, and asked the clerk: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?" The clerk stared at Goering for a moment and then said no, mein herr, I do not.

The two left with Hitler complaining that he did not understand what the point of this was and Goering telling him to be patient. They went to another shop and Goering gave the same act: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?" The clerk stared and shrugged his shoulders.

They left with Hitler becoming incensed over this nonsense and Goering begging for patience. Finally they went into a Jewish shop; Goering again asked the clerk: "Do you have any left-handed teacups?"

The clerk smiled graciously, went into the back room and made a show of rummaging around, brought out a saucer and teacup, set down the saucer, and carefully placed the cup with the handle pointed so Goering could pick it with his left hand. "There you are, mein herr!" the clerk said.

Goering bought the teacup, thanked the clerk, and the two men left. Goering turned to Hitler and said: "See, I told you the Jews were very clever people."

"I don't see what was so clever about that," Hitler snapped. "He just happened to have one in stock!"
 
Has anyone asked Firaxis why Hitler isn't in the game? That would end this debate once and for all, wouldn't it, if we got their official stance. I'm pretty sure I know what they would say and why, but at least then this would be over.

Besides hearing people talk about how Hitler was a great leader is kind of making me ill. (and shocked....I can barely believe people say that)
 
Very few people realize Hitler was vastly misunderstood and really yearned for a life in a bluegrass band.

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No word on who's skin is on the banjo.
 
!!CONGRATULATIONS!!

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I call for unity and peace and an end to this insanity.


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The fact that these fine fellows are not represented in the game is a travesty.

An outright travesty.


Hey Stexe, are these the friends you mentioned earlier?
 
drkodos said:
So now I need to keep a weary and suspecting eye of the relatively unknown actor Boothe Powers as well?


It would probably help him, at least someone would be paying attention. As Leonard Nemoy said, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

I don't particularly agree with the rest of your post but I'm too tired to argue it. You didn't respond (nor were you obligated to) to some stuff I said, so I don't feel bad for cutting and running. Besides I can't argue with a man who makes Bob Dylan references, and the Rainbow Knights picture is the funniest thing I've seen in hours. But I don't know why you think Hitler wanted to play banjo. He wanted to be an artist so he could draw dead people. If only he hadn't sucked at it.
 
Wow...It is a tight race (unlike the election). 130 for to 140 against as of right now.
 
Nufuhsus said:
Wow...It is a tight race (unlike the election). 130 for to 140 against as of right now.

That only proves (much like the real elections) that nearly half the people who vote are morons.
 
Lets start a new poll. I believe genocide should be a civic, maybe even a religious civic since the game doesn't include race as a variable. When the enemy's religion spreads to my civ I want to be able to switch to genocide and eradicate all of the believers in it. Or when you conquer an enemy city and take it over, you can switch to genocide to kill off their citizens and get rid of their culture faster and make it your own. That would be fun. Assimilation takes too damn long.

While we are at it, racism would be a good civic too. I am not sure what the benefit is yet, but there is clearly a demand by the people to be able to act out on their racist, genocidal tendencies in a socially acceptable way, like a video game perhaps.
 
a4phantom said:
I don't particularly agree with the rest of your post but I'm too tired to argue it.

I am not sure I agree with all of it either. ;)
 
kcbrett5 said:
Lets start a new poll. I believe genocide should be a civic, maybe even a religious civic since the game doesn't include race as a variable. When the enemy's religion spreads to my civ I want to be able to switch to genocide and eradicate all of the believers in it. Or when you conquer an enemy city and take it over, you can switch to genocide to kill off their citizens and get rid of their culture faster and make it your own. That would be fun. Assimilation takes too damn long.

That would make Police State and Theocracy and maybe Nationalism a bit more honest.

kcbrett5 said:
While we are at it, racism would be a good civic too. I am not sure what the benefit is yet, but there is clearly a demand by the people to be able to act out on their racist, genocidal tendencies in a socially acceptable way, like a video game perhaps.

Racism is far too pervasive a part of human civilization to confine to a single civic.

kcbrett5 said:
That only proves (much like the real elections) that nearly half the people who vote are morons.

If the other side pulls ahead, let's demand a recount.
 
a4phantom: I see your wonderful state just elected the first Muslim to Congress.


Minnesota is the most politically experimental state in the union, it seems.


I wonder how long before we see lobbying to remove pork from school lunches. It is coming. Oh, yes my precious, yes it is.
 
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