The religious threads...

[Xen]

at the moment, even though it seems the heat is starting to die down (either due to actions by the mods, or my telling them that the little interpersonal flame fest got the arguments nowwhere, and doing so was childish and such...) I feel that it would be in the best interest of all, if once one the threads gets too uncivilised, the very least that should be done is a warning to the sparing participants -in public veiw- to stop, and to be ashamed of them sleves for being so naive as to let personal comments take hold, and lead to bashing of someone -usually the montheists-, indeed though, as the only one in any where near what could be called a neutral postion (as the only known polytheist on the forums, and arguer for Roman-Italiot-Greek polytheistic religions, no one seems willing to give real argument to my posts, perhaps because they do not know enough to even begin to construct a real argument against it -though I doubt one could be made, the religion is so philosophicaly complex in nature...-, but that is beside the point) perhaps it is only I whom seem to see how out of hand this is all getting (and how absurd the role reversal for all this is, between the Atheists and Monotheists, but that too is a differnt topic)

but i just want to know the mods opinion on the subject, to see if any agree that this situation is getting out of hand, at leat in my opinion.

 

[floppa21]

Start a thread and I will see if I can debate/refute/flame with you.

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by Xen
(as the only known polytheist on the forums, ....)

I take it you haven't met Stormerne ...

 

[Xen]

@floppa- I have posted in most of the threads, I suppose most people just ignore the argumentitive Roman.....

@Padma- who is Stormerne-, of what polyhthistic practice is he/she a part of?

 

[Cimbri]

The religious stuff is just the current ‘big thing’, but unlike mullets, this one will die faster.

It has happened now and then that some issue has sparked a furious debate and lots of spin-off threads.

This topic will last one more week, tops... and return in a month or so...

 

[Xen]

yes, and it is its return, and the flaming-trolling(not sure what it means, but I trhink itapplies from where it has been used in others posts), and all about rudness, that i dislike, this is the Civilization Fanatics' Center, the least we should do is try to act civilised, at least part of the time....

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by Xen
@Padma- who is Stormerne-, of what polyhthistic practice is he/she a part of?

stormerne is the moderator of the Civ1 forum. In the past, he would often post in some of these religion threads just to point out that not *all* of us here are atheist or monotheist. I don't recall his specific religious practices, but I would count him as one who believes in, and talks to, many gods.

 

[Xen]

nice to know I am not alone

 

[WillJ]

Originally posted by Cimbri
The religious stuff is just the current ‘big thing’, but unlike mullets, this one will die faster.

It has happened now and then that some issue has sparked a furious debate and lots of spin-off threads.

A current "big thing" for one person. *cough* *cough* CurtSibling *cough*

 

[Zarn]

I must have received alot of insults in these threads but have reported none. Why some make such posts is beyond me.

 

[mrtn]

Originally posted by Xen
...trolling(not sure what it means, but I trhink itapplies from where it has been used in others posts.....

Trolling is something you do when you fish, you drag a large net along the ocean floor. In the internet world this means you throw something out, and hope to get some argument in your "net".
It's nothing to do with trolls (though people trolling often get called trolls).

 

[floppa21]

Stormerne calls himself a Heathen. He could tell you more and I doubt he would mind a PM from you.

Religion is a fun topic. Sure it gets heated sometimes, would you expect less? The topic is not going to be banned so if you want to participate do, if you don't, don't.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Zarn
I must have received alot of insults in these threads but have reported none. Why some make such posts is beyond me.

Don't act wounded, you handed out just as many.

I was insulted by many zealots, but shrugged it off.

 

[CurtSibling]

I made various observations, and if people want to see them as trolls, fine.
They were not, I don't stoop to swearing or name-hurling, like many other posters.

I want to say the idea of being called a sinner or atheist is a troll/flame to my beliefs!

 

[barron of ideas]

I believe the theory is, we are all sinners.

Monotheism agrees with Occams razor, and the principal of parsimony, which is pretty much the same thing (do not multiply entities unnecessarily.)

On the other hand, issues that require faith, almost by definition transcend proof. You likely would have better luck arguing that your opponent should hang himself than change his religion. Pushing that rock up the hill, it should not surprise you that it rolls down and you need to do it again.

On the other hand, I guess, for some people it is fun to attempt the (nearly) impossible. Do not be surpirsied, when emotions are engaged that insults are offered for your pains.

 

[CurtSibling]

One of my bugbears is the attitude of religious people that we are all tarred with their brush.

We are all sinners?
And there is no get-out clause but bow to their fabricated idea?

Fat chance!

They can keep their concept of sinning for themselves.

It does not apply to me.

I have learned exactly what I wanted to know from the threads.
I was well aware of the fact that most people are stuck in their beliefs.

Funniest of all is the fact that most of the most hard-headed about religion are young fellows
with precious little experience of the big harsh world outside their mummy and daddy's home.

That made me laugh!

 

[MajorGeneral2]

I've always been a supporter of the "No-Religion" rule for forums. It comes to blows to easily and strongly affects people's opinions of each other, often too easily. Also, people often shoot themselves (ie, their faith) in the foot by getting too emotional, or simply not understanding their own faith. This seems to be a problem especially for Christians.
BTW, I wouldn't mind historical discussion of religion in the World History forum, so long as it stays there.
And Curt, you're beginning to troll right now.

 

[floppa21]

There is nothing wrong with religous threads/discussions. If you don't want to partake of them, exercise some willpower and don't enter them. Very simple.

 

[Xen]

but what if ones religion is bashed, or left out, or there are notable arguments that could be described for/against religion(s)- there is a notabel of poytheists willing to argue the point, I'm just glad that someone was arguing for it before I was... its to often that people assume that just because somthin -appears- to be in the majority, that it rukes out ALL other veiws

 

[floppa21]

Then get in there and start typin!