The remaining Civ

What will the remaining civ be?

  • The Sioux

    Votes: 21 8.6%
  • The Poles

    Votes: 16 6.5%
  • The Hungarians

    Votes: 13 5.3%
  • The Mali

    Votes: 12 4.9%
  • The Ethiopes

    Votes: 15 6.1%
  • The Nigerians

    Votes: 7 2.9%
  • The Israelis

    Votes: 55 22.4%
  • The Tibetans

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • The Khmers

    Votes: 14 5.7%
  • The Indonesians

    Votes: 6 2.4%
  • The Siamese

    Votes: 6 2.4%
  • The Aborigenees

    Votes: 10 4.1%
  • The Polynesians

    Votes: 41 16.7%
  • Other (Specify)

    Votes: 25 10.2%

  • Total voters
    245
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SITUATED in Europe, it would be a mediterranean civ :)
 
By Euro I mean situated in Europe. Thats where Byzantium would be, thats why it shouldn't be included.
 
Byzantium deserves to be in the game more then several of the original civs
 
I want a Native American civ cause we only have the Iroquois. With the Sioux, I can rule the WORLD!! MUHAHAHAHAHA!:die: :mwaha: ...sorry
 
Until you meet the Might of Byzantium :D
 
I think we should have the Israelis because it would be cool to have a modern day campaign. Plus, the first scenario could be to defend you cities in Israel with your troops, and reinforcements coming in every now and then. The next few campaigns can be with the six-day war. The only problem is finding a unique unit for them...:confused:
 
If its only cool for modern day scens then they shouldnt be a civ- wouldnt be worth it, instead just mod the game to have them in it
 
The thing with Byzantium is, not only is it very similar to the Romans (and as you've now enlightened me, the Greeks) but the differences between Rome and Byzantium are the differences that emerge in one's civ as you move it through the 'test of time' at least, that's how I see it, the differences between the two occur not because they are fundamentally different entities but because they were the same entity in two VERY different eras.
 
Then WHY were the TWO so utterlly differnt when they still co-existed? These differnces were VERY fast in appering, and causing a split between the two


@Furius- just curious, but is your name fashiond after the secret unit in AOK?
 
<hesitant to reenter the fray>

Even at the height of the Roman Empire's power, the eastern half was viewed as more wealthy, corrupt, and decadent -- a view the Romans always held of the Greeks -- long before the split into the Eastern and Western Roman Empires...
 
Originally posted by Furius
the differences between Rome and Byzantium are the differences that emerge in one's civ as you move it through the 'test of time' at least, that's how I see it, the differences between the two occur not because they are fundamentally different entities but because they were the same entity in two VERY different eras.

Spot on!! :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

A point I've made many times in many places. :D
 
a good point, though it makes me wonder what the east thought of the west- I'm sure that it was that were anything but moral crusaders....
 
But, now I shall RE-address the biggest point in favor of the Byzantines (a fact even Calgacus cannot refute!)-


having, and using Cataphracts, would be really, really cool :)
 
Not to bring in to account the fact that they are(were) an indipendent power, AND culture of Rome......
 
Aren't they of Sarmatian origin? Yeah, they would be cool :cool:

The West, as you know, did not have the same level of Graeco-Roman culture outside of Italy, southern France, north Africa and southern Spain. Italy remained very similar to the East Romans, southern France was barbarized and southern Spain and north Africa's Roman culture were Arabicized.

By the Crusades, the meditteranean world is divided into Moslem, East Roman and Romano (church)-Germanic (warlords) Western culture. They are separate civs at that point, but only because all three have diverged from each other - not because the Eastern Romans weren't Roman. :D
 
who is of Sarmatian origin?
 
To some degree, but It was conflicts with first the Pathians, and then the sucessing Neo-persian empire who caused the real development of late Roman cavalry into the Cataphract
 
My earlier post was dealing w/ antiquity -- not the middle ages. However, the result of the Pelloponesian War revealed that the austere, militaristic culture (in this case, the region surrounding Rome, Gaul, and Germania) is not necessarily better than the wealthy, more "decadent" culture (in this case, Greece, and eventually Byzantium)...
 
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