The remaining Civ

[WarriorPoet]

stonesfan, your point on the sumerians is well taken, but before they were spanish or portugese, they were Iberians. Before they were French or German, they were the Germanic tribes...etc...Heck, doesn't the game start in 4000BC???

 

[Sha-Feer]

Originally posted by WarriorPoet
stonesfan, your point on the sumerians is well taken, but before they were spanish or portugese, they were Iberians. Before they were French or German, they were the Germanic tribes...etc...Heck, doesn't the game start in 4000BC???

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I am with you on this. It does start in 4000BC before there was anykind of advance CIV. So it really doesn't matter if the CIV was actually a CIV because in this game you are the ruler not Shaka Zulu for real, so you get to try your hand and see if you can turn all of the Americas to Zululand. And so on and so fourth.

I voted for Isreal. Just think how so many things would be different in the whole wide world if not for the Isrealites. Between them, Adolf Hitler and Johannes Gutenburg we are who we are now. America may have never existed the way it is now if not for the Hebrew religion and all those that have taken a part of it. People may have never even disired to have religious freedom and head for the New World, if the Hitties or the Assyrians had wiped them out, or if Adolf would have "cleansed the world". What would life be like? Some may like it better that way..some not but I say the Hebrews should be in the list.

 

[SoCalian]

Yeah it starts in 4000 BC but it ends around 2000AD. I don't see any germanic tribes or Guals or Iberieans. But, I do see French, Germans, Spanish, and Portugese Civilizations that have had a far more important impact upon the world than the tribes that they decended from.The piont of the game is to build a civilization that can last for all time. Therefore civlizations that have had an enormous impact on the the course of history should be included in the game, not tribes that barely (if at all) achieved "civilization" status. Anyways are not the civilizations called tribes at the begining of the game. But, since most of those civs are already included in the game, the civs that will be added should be juged first on how well the fill up a world map, then on how powerful they were compared to the nations around them, and lastly on they're contibutions to technology, society, ect. and their impact on history. So, that being considered here is my list:

Ghana
Ethiopia
Khemer
Inca
Souix
Hebrews
Austalians

The Polynesians would be good, but they are so easy to add that I included they Austalians insead (the entire contenent is empty now).

 

[Novaya Havoc]

I still vote for the Khmer. I love my modded Polynesia, but since I love the mod (yay Hokulea!) so much, I can stand to add them again.

But really, were the Dutch and Portuguese CONFIRMED? I mean, they were shown in a shot, but didn't even have leader-heads. Perhaps they were simply scenario-specific?

I thought the confirmed ones were Hitties, Sumerians, Inca, and Mayans.

In that case, I would add the Netherlands, Ethiopia, and the Khmer.

-Ben

 

[Portuguese]

Israelis!
Historical importance
Need for Middle East Scenarios
Interesting Civ

BTW, I'd call it Hebrews.

 

[thestonesfan]

Originally posted by WarriorPoet
stonesfan, your point on the sumerians is well taken, but before they were spanish or portugese, they were Iberians. Before they were French or German, they were the Germanic tribes...etc...Heck, doesn't the game start in 4000BC???

The starting date is arbitrary. There were no "Iberians" in 4000 BC, because that's the name the Romans gave them, and their were no "Romans" in 4000 BC either.

The game is all about representation. Both the Germans and the French had more of an impact on the world than their ancestoral tribes, which were barbarians by all accounts. So we don't lump them together as "Goths" or "Gauls" or "Germanic Tribes". The name of the civ should represent the civ at the height of it's power and influence. A "civ" is actually a mix between ethnicity, nationality, and convenience. Remember, there was no nation of Germany until 1871. Greece wasn't unified until a Macedonian leader took command and led them to war in far way lands.

Now, I do think it would be cool if you could change a civ's name when the era changes or a tech is discovered. For example, once the middle ages is reached, the Romans would become the Italians.

 

[Ville]

Finland (hmm... maybe not ), I'd say Polynesia because there aren't any Pacific (Island) civs yet

 

[thestonesfan]

Originally posted by Ville
Finland (hmm... maybe not ), I'd say Polynesia because there aren't any Pacific (Island) civs yet

There aren't any in the game or the real world. You can't have a civ when your land consist of thousands of tiny islands that have no contact with each other.

 

[Ville]

If you have cattle in 2-tile grassland island, then you could build thousands of tiny cities to thousands of tiny islands that have no contact with each other

 

[thestonesfan]

??

What's wrong with cattle in grassland? All the cattle I've seen have been on grassland, and I've seen a lot of cattle.

 

[Pangur Bán]

C'mon, I'm sure with all those play-testers, that at least somebody has leaked the new civs. Does no-one know?

 

[Portuguese]

Calgacus,

CIVs in:
Portugal
Holland
Sumeria
Hittite
Inca
Maya

6 known, 1 unknown...

 

[Pangur Bán]

Originally posted by Portuguese
Calgacus,

CIVs in:
Portugal
Holland
Sumeria
Hittite
Inca
Maya

6 known, 1 unknown...

I meant the 1/2 unknown civs

 

[aaminion00]

But wait...

When I think about it, where exactlz have the Dutch and Portuguese been confirmed??

I read that article and don't remember it actually saying that they're the new civs... I just remember seeing the Dutch in that screenshot of the Paciffic War scenario and seeing the Portuguese looking pikeman. I hope none of you took that to mean that they were the new civs. I mean, if anything, that screenshot showed that the Dutch wouldn't be. It said Dutch but it didn't have a specific ledaerhead, just the Julius Ceaser.

So have they really been confirmed or is it just people jumping to conclusions?

Personally I don't think the Hitties and Sumerians should've been there in the first place. As if we haven't already got enough Middle Eastern Civs already (besides the Israelis/Hebrews).

And I'll say it again. WHY are the Polynesians so damn necessary??? They NEVER had a real civilization. They don't even take up a lot of space on the world maps. Just a bunch of tiny 1-square islands in the middle of the paciffic making them 6 technologies behind everybody else by the start of the middle age. I have the Polynesians in my game, but if Sween32 made a leaderhead and UU for any of the other civs in the poll (except perhaps for the Aborigenees), I would replace them in a second. It is dumbfounding that anyone would place the Polynesians ahead of some of the other civs in the poll.

 

[D' Artagnan]

I have the bad feeling that the Hebrews won't be included

 

[JonathanValjean]

My top two guesses are the Israelis and the Polynesians. I voted for the latter, however.

 

[Portuguese]

Originally posted by aaminion00
But wait...

When I think about it, where exactlz have the Dutch and Portuguese been confirmed??

I am going to say this once (I'm speaking the truth, unlike the other guy ):

TF posted it in the front news,
some of us doubted,
TF said that we should trust more in what he write in front news,
END of discussion!

(can't find that post, sorry, but go by me...)

 

[Portuguese]

Still hope to see Hebrews...

 

[Xen]

BY-ZAN-TI-UM,BY-ZAN-TI-UM,BY-ZAN-TI-UM, 'cmon now join in the chant! I think the gamespot article confirmed it, my beloved Byzantines will be in

but here are the nations I would have put in-

1)polynesia
2)Inca
3)Sue
4)Azande
5)Byzantines
6)singnapore (a sout east asian nation off the top of my head, added not really for realism but game play value on world maps)
7)Hitites (why not, i cant think of any one else who would not crowd in europe WAY to much)

 

[Smellincoffee]

My vote is for the Isralies.