Well, we decided to experiment with playing a lakes game. The group I play with has since this game never played a game on lakes, or with barbarians.
I was egypt, and expanding. Everything was going good, I was in 1st place most of the game. Then, around 200B.C., the downward spiral started. My economy crashed. When I say crashed, I mean BAD crashed. I had to go down to 20% scientific research. I later went down to 10%, and finally to 0%. Workers went on strike, and every unit in excess to 1 per city was disbanded. At 0% I was still at -6 gold a turn
On the eastern side of the map, trouble was brewing. Barbarians were getting out of controll, just *way* too strong. They closed in on one of the PCs, and literally destroyed his civilization, capital and all. He was killed by barbarians. I do repeat, a PC was overwhelmed and then killed by barbarians.
After he was killed, the barbarains had about five or six cities in the east. Before my economy was so horrible that I lost all of my extra men I explored over there, these cities were bustling metropolises, the barbarians had workers, and the smallest city I found was a five.
Then, the barbarians turned to me, just as my economy started to buck up and stabalize at 20% scientific research. They invaded with axemen, warriors, and archers. There were no more than four or five of them in my country at the same time, but it was a constant stream. I was forced to huddle in my cities as my improvements were pillaged, this put me back to 0% science with -10 gold per turn, and killed off most of my cities populations and production. I was effectively killed by the barbarians, because even though they couldn't get past my 40%-60% defences, I couldn't do anything at all.
At this point, the barbarians had effectively destroyed *two* PC civilizations, and judging from the armies that had been sent to destroy the barbarians, they had a stronger army than any of the PCs. Around this point I said "Hey, barbarians advance in tech too... What would happen if they got nukes?"
No one else was particularly doing well, either. Seeing as how from 200BC to 1100AD I didn't discover any new tech or really do anything, and I was still in first place.
The combined sucking of everyone in the game along with the growing possibility that the barbarians would kill us all prompted us to leave the game in shame.
I was egypt, and expanding. Everything was going good, I was in 1st place most of the game. Then, around 200B.C., the downward spiral started. My economy crashed. When I say crashed, I mean BAD crashed. I had to go down to 20% scientific research. I later went down to 10%, and finally to 0%. Workers went on strike, and every unit in excess to 1 per city was disbanded. At 0% I was still at -6 gold a turn
On the eastern side of the map, trouble was brewing. Barbarians were getting out of controll, just *way* too strong. They closed in on one of the PCs, and literally destroyed his civilization, capital and all. He was killed by barbarians. I do repeat, a PC was overwhelmed and then killed by barbarians.

After he was killed, the barbarains had about five or six cities in the east. Before my economy was so horrible that I lost all of my extra men I explored over there, these cities were bustling metropolises, the barbarians had workers, and the smallest city I found was a five.
Then, the barbarians turned to me, just as my economy started to buck up and stabalize at 20% scientific research. They invaded with axemen, warriors, and archers. There were no more than four or five of them in my country at the same time, but it was a constant stream. I was forced to huddle in my cities as my improvements were pillaged, this put me back to 0% science with -10 gold per turn, and killed off most of my cities populations and production. I was effectively killed by the barbarians, because even though they couldn't get past my 40%-60% defences, I couldn't do anything at all.
At this point, the barbarians had effectively destroyed *two* PC civilizations, and judging from the armies that had been sent to destroy the barbarians, they had a stronger army than any of the PCs. Around this point I said "Hey, barbarians advance in tech too... What would happen if they got nukes?"
No one else was particularly doing well, either. Seeing as how from 200BC to 1100AD I didn't discover any new tech or really do anything, and I was still in first place.
The combined sucking of everyone in the game along with the growing possibility that the barbarians would kill us all prompted us to leave the game in shame.