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The Shiji (Records of the Grand Historian): Wonders of the Orient
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conquer_dude
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Gargh wars wars wars wars wars!! 
Heh, that's true China is a communism right now. Strange how this relates so much with the real world.
Heh, that's true China is a communism right now. Strange how this relates so much with the real world.
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conquer_dude said:Gargh wars wars wars wars wars!!
Heh, that's true China is a communism right now. Strange how this relates so much with the real world.
Gargh fingers tired from so much typing! Gargh real life being a big meanie to me!
To be honest, I think the real world China is pretty far away from being communist. In fact, no country has ever truly achieved the goal of becoming "communist," they only got as far as implementing socialism but never got around to the "classless society" or the eventual withering away of all government. Today, the terms that are used to describe the Chinese economy are "market socialism" and "socialism with Chinese characteristics." Kind of vague in my opinion
...I would argue that the best "communist" successes in China were the early communes Mao set up in the south in the 1930s, and the rapid modernization in the early 1950s from the first five-year plan. After the Great Leap Forward failed everything sort of started spiraling out of control, and after Deng took over in 1978 China has been steadily moving closer toward a market economy.
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Yes, also in China it's something strange going on with some non-communist at all cities in the middle of the country!
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Chapter 35: The Ultimatum
Look how swift to the snowy sea races Running-Horse River!
And sand, up from the desert, flies yellow into heaven.
This Ninth-month night is blowing cold at Wheel Tower,
And valleys, like peck measures, fill with the broken boulders
That downward, headlong, follow the wind.
In spite of grey grasses, Tartar horses are plump;
West of the Hill of Gold, smoke and dust gather.
O General of the Chinese troops, start your campaign!
Keep your iron armour on all night long,
Send your soldiers forward with a clattering of weapons!
While the sharp wind's point cuts the face like a knife,
And snowy sweat steams on the horses' backs,
Freezing a pattern of five-flower coins,
Your challenge from camp, from an inkstand of ice,
Has chilled the barbarian chieftain's heart.
You will have no more need of an actual battle!
We await the news of victory, here at the western pass!
"A Farewell Song to General Feng of the Western Expedition," Cen Can (A.D. 715-770)
While most government functions had essentially shut down when the revolution began on February 18, 2006, surprisingly little changed at the Ministry of State Security. In fact, the revolution presented a fine opportunity for the MSS chief, foreign minister Zhou Enlai, to recruit new members who were the most talented and loyal to Chairman Mao. These recruits would soon play an important role in determining the direction of China's new foreign policy.
And so when the revolution came to a close at the end of 2008 AD, the first order of business was to resume espionage operations in Japan and India. Zhou carefully chose the two most experienced and reliable men from the pool of applicants, and after briefing them on their tasks, sent them right on their way.
"From now on," said Zhou, "you shall never again use your real identities. You here... you will be called Agent Tong. And you... hmm... well I'll call you Agent Gong."
The two of them saluted Zhou, accepting their new duties. Agent Tong would try to seek employment within the Japanese defense department, while Agent Gong would try to enter the most secure of India's military facilities.
Within days, the MSS heard that they had been successful in their infiltrations, and were awaiting new orders.
By this time the Chinese military had been reorganized under the leadership of defense minister Zhu De, commander in chief of the People's Liberation Army. The navy was likely to play an important role in the upcoming conflicts, and it was now more tightly integrated with the rest of the military as the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). And finally, for the first time ever, the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) was ready to join in the attacks, with many fighters and bombers prepared for action.
Zhu was confident in his troops, but he knew that he would have to pick his battles carefully. The enemy would not be forgiving this time, and there was no substitute for victory. No more would China ever settle for a "peace without victory" if domination was the ultimate goal.
He needed foreign intelligence. And the MSS agents had exactly what he was looking for.
Agent Tong reported from Kyoto his survey of the Japanese military:
And Agent Gong in Delhi forwarded his findings as well:
Together, Zhou and Zhu examined the reports, and they faced a difficult decision. Most of the Chinese military, in the form of tanks and mechanized infantry, had already been deployed along the Indian border, in the Hangzhou-Guangzhou corridor and around Nanjing in the south. But the Indian defense force consisted mostly of infantry, powerful defenders compared with the Japanese riflemen that China had fought with and easily defeated in the past. And so even though it seemed more convenient to attack India because the available forces were already in place on the continent, Zhu felt that India would probably put up much stiffer resistance than Japan.
Yet Japan was formidable on water as well. Much stronger than their Indian counterparts, Tokugawa's navy had nearly as many ships as the PLAN, though several of them were older models of destroyers and frigates. In order to successfully attack Japan, China would have to ensure superiority on the high seas first.
The two ministers were puzzled over this and argued for several days about which foreign rival would be the first target. But one day, economic advisor Liu Shaoqi stopped by the MSS building in Beijing and paid them a surprise visit. He had overheard their conversation, and had some interesting ideas to share as well.
"Do you still remember that we still have ongoing trades with both Japan and India?" he asked. Zhou and Zhu nodded.
"We are exporting iron to India, and Gandhi is supplying us with oil in return," said Zhu.
"And we have a prosperous luxury trade with the Japanese," added Zhou.
Minister Liu was pleased to learn that they were all well aware of the international trading situation. "But ultimately, which trade is more important? We will have to sacrifice the benefits of these trades when war is declared, so I suggest that you choose carefully."
After pondering this for a moment, Zhou spoke. "Entertainment for the people can always be subsidized with government funding if luxury goods run out, and if needed we can also set up some military police. But strategic resources have a value that cannot be so easily replaced."
"Exactly what I would have thought as well," Liu responded. "But let's take a closer look at what Japan and India really have. I'm sure the MSS agents you have sent can supply us with that information, right?"
"Of course," said Zhou. He produced two reports, outlining the situation of the first potential target cities in both Japan and India.
Zhu had suggested that the first Japanese city to take would probably be Matsuyama, in the far north, and the investigation that Agent Tong had provided showed this:
"So that explains why Japan has no infantry," Zhu remarked. "Tokugawa has no rubber."
"And I'm sure Mahatma Gandhi would be far from willing to sell rubber to a hated enemy he has fought with for many years," added Zhou.
"Perhaps," said Liu, "but take a look at this." He pointed at the report that Agent Gong had supplied on Jaipur, the Indian city most likely to be taken out first by Chinese land forces. "As a matter of fact, Gandhi doesn't even have rubber to spare. And remarkably, he doesn't have any oil either."
Minister Zhou gasped. "No oil? How is that possible? Gandhi is still shipping barrels and barrels of oil to our refineries, why wouldn't he keep any for himself?"
"My, my, I thought your memory was better than that," said Liu. "Remember how we discovered oil right after I negotiated that deal with Gandhi? Well, Gandhi had two sources of oil when we traded with him, but the very next year one of those oilfields was exhausted. The Mahatma is an honorable man, and he is dutifully continuing to supply us with excess oil, even more than we need, even though he needs it far more than we do."
"Interesting," said Zhou. "And if we declare war on India, that trade would be canceled, and the Indians would be able to keep their oil for their own use. I don't think we should let that happen."
"A wise choice," agreed Liu. "Besides, Japan seems to be reaping too much benefit out of the luxury deal. What has he done to deserve six luxury goods, the same number as we have here in marketplaces in China? If we go to war with Japan, and capture their spices or incense, we can sell those to India and make a handsome profit."
Zhou and Zhu continued to consider this, and gradually they became more and more convinced that it was not yet the best time to attack the Indians. An invasion of Japan would open up more possibilities, not to mention the fact that it would probably go more smoothly as well.
There was one last thing Zhou wanted to be certain of before submitting his decision to Mao. He wished to know if China had the appropriate military capacity to wage an overseas war against the Japanese. Would there be enough transport ships to send the forces over to another continent? Did the PLAN have enough sea power to escort those transports, or would they be intercepted and sunk by the Japanese navy? Would the PLAAF be able to provide air cover in case the Japanese air force wished to intervene?
The answer that Commander Zhu provided was a resounding yes. Over the past few years he had long expected a showdown with Tokugawa, and in preparation for that, a large portion of the PLA had been airlifted to Kaohsiung. All that was left was to give them the orders to attack.
For foreign minister Zhou, that was enough to be the last nail in Tokugawa's coffin. Together, the ministers agreed that Japan, and not India, would be the first target of war.
"Excellent work," said Mao when hearing of their decision. "But I heard from Minister Deng today that it might be beneficial for us to acquire the technique of amphibious war from Japan, even though the use of marines is quite limited when our conventional military forces are already so strong."
"Tell him to hand it over," suggested Zhou. "They've demanded that we hand over sanitation before, I don't see what would prevent us from doing the same."
Mao decided that was a great idea, and immediately he dispatched a first transport ship from Kaohsiung, which delivered the message of the ultimatum to the Shogun: "Agree to our demands, or face annihilation."
"What the hell?" shouted an irate Tokugawa. "When did that idiot Mao think he was strong enough to push me around? I was just about to demand technology from the Chinese."
His advisor, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, suggested, "We will respond exactly the same way as they did to us. I'm certain that they are bluffing."
"Well then," Mao said, feigning a sigh. "Poor Tokugawa has just lost his last chance to maintain peace in his land."
"Don't toy with me," snarled Tokugawa. "Get out of my sight."
"Toy with you?" Mao stifled a laugh. "Oh, no, that would be far too kind of us, and certainly not fun enough. No, we will have a big party over on your continent, and then you will be wishing that we were just toying with you."
The Chairman turned to the captain of the transport ship, and gave him a thumbs up. A sudden roar was heard as the tanks on board started their engines, lining up in a single column and steadily rolling off the gangplank. They landed in the pine forest and mountains outside Matsuyama unopposed.
"It was a real pleasure dealing with you, Tokugawa," Mao snickered. "I hope you have fun."
Look how swift to the snowy sea races Running-Horse River!
And sand, up from the desert, flies yellow into heaven.
This Ninth-month night is blowing cold at Wheel Tower,
And valleys, like peck measures, fill with the broken boulders
That downward, headlong, follow the wind.
In spite of grey grasses, Tartar horses are plump;
West of the Hill of Gold, smoke and dust gather.
O General of the Chinese troops, start your campaign!
Keep your iron armour on all night long,
Send your soldiers forward with a clattering of weapons!
While the sharp wind's point cuts the face like a knife,
And snowy sweat steams on the horses' backs,
Freezing a pattern of five-flower coins,
Your challenge from camp, from an inkstand of ice,
Has chilled the barbarian chieftain's heart.
You will have no more need of an actual battle!
We await the news of victory, here at the western pass!
"A Farewell Song to General Feng of the Western Expedition," Cen Can (A.D. 715-770)
While most government functions had essentially shut down when the revolution began on February 18, 2006, surprisingly little changed at the Ministry of State Security. In fact, the revolution presented a fine opportunity for the MSS chief, foreign minister Zhou Enlai, to recruit new members who were the most talented and loyal to Chairman Mao. These recruits would soon play an important role in determining the direction of China's new foreign policy.
And so when the revolution came to a close at the end of 2008 AD, the first order of business was to resume espionage operations in Japan and India. Zhou carefully chose the two most experienced and reliable men from the pool of applicants, and after briefing them on their tasks, sent them right on their way.
"From now on," said Zhou, "you shall never again use your real identities. You here... you will be called Agent Tong. And you... hmm... well I'll call you Agent Gong."
The two of them saluted Zhou, accepting their new duties. Agent Tong would try to seek employment within the Japanese defense department, while Agent Gong would try to enter the most secure of India's military facilities.
Within days, the MSS heard that they had been successful in their infiltrations, and were awaiting new orders.
By this time the Chinese military had been reorganized under the leadership of defense minister Zhu De, commander in chief of the People's Liberation Army. The navy was likely to play an important role in the upcoming conflicts, and it was now more tightly integrated with the rest of the military as the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). And finally, for the first time ever, the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) was ready to join in the attacks, with many fighters and bombers prepared for action.
Zhu was confident in his troops, but he knew that he would have to pick his battles carefully. The enemy would not be forgiving this time, and there was no substitute for victory. No more would China ever settle for a "peace without victory" if domination was the ultimate goal.
He needed foreign intelligence. And the MSS agents had exactly what he was looking for.
Agent Tong reported from Kyoto his survey of the Japanese military:
Spoiler :
And Agent Gong in Delhi forwarded his findings as well:
Spoiler :
Together, Zhou and Zhu examined the reports, and they faced a difficult decision. Most of the Chinese military, in the form of tanks and mechanized infantry, had already been deployed along the Indian border, in the Hangzhou-Guangzhou corridor and around Nanjing in the south. But the Indian defense force consisted mostly of infantry, powerful defenders compared with the Japanese riflemen that China had fought with and easily defeated in the past. And so even though it seemed more convenient to attack India because the available forces were already in place on the continent, Zhu felt that India would probably put up much stiffer resistance than Japan.
Yet Japan was formidable on water as well. Much stronger than their Indian counterparts, Tokugawa's navy had nearly as many ships as the PLAN, though several of them were older models of destroyers and frigates. In order to successfully attack Japan, China would have to ensure superiority on the high seas first.
The two ministers were puzzled over this and argued for several days about which foreign rival would be the first target. But one day, economic advisor Liu Shaoqi stopped by the MSS building in Beijing and paid them a surprise visit. He had overheard their conversation, and had some interesting ideas to share as well.
"Do you still remember that we still have ongoing trades with both Japan and India?" he asked. Zhou and Zhu nodded.
"We are exporting iron to India, and Gandhi is supplying us with oil in return," said Zhu.
"And we have a prosperous luxury trade with the Japanese," added Zhou.
Minister Liu was pleased to learn that they were all well aware of the international trading situation. "But ultimately, which trade is more important? We will have to sacrifice the benefits of these trades when war is declared, so I suggest that you choose carefully."
After pondering this for a moment, Zhou spoke. "Entertainment for the people can always be subsidized with government funding if luxury goods run out, and if needed we can also set up some military police. But strategic resources have a value that cannot be so easily replaced."
"Exactly what I would have thought as well," Liu responded. "But let's take a closer look at what Japan and India really have. I'm sure the MSS agents you have sent can supply us with that information, right?"
"Of course," said Zhou. He produced two reports, outlining the situation of the first potential target cities in both Japan and India.
Zhu had suggested that the first Japanese city to take would probably be Matsuyama, in the far north, and the investigation that Agent Tong had provided showed this:
Spoiler :
"So that explains why Japan has no infantry," Zhu remarked. "Tokugawa has no rubber."
"And I'm sure Mahatma Gandhi would be far from willing to sell rubber to a hated enemy he has fought with for many years," added Zhou.
"Perhaps," said Liu, "but take a look at this." He pointed at the report that Agent Gong had supplied on Jaipur, the Indian city most likely to be taken out first by Chinese land forces. "As a matter of fact, Gandhi doesn't even have rubber to spare. And remarkably, he doesn't have any oil either."
Spoiler :
Minister Zhou gasped. "No oil? How is that possible? Gandhi is still shipping barrels and barrels of oil to our refineries, why wouldn't he keep any for himself?"
"My, my, I thought your memory was better than that," said Liu. "Remember how we discovered oil right after I negotiated that deal with Gandhi? Well, Gandhi had two sources of oil when we traded with him, but the very next year one of those oilfields was exhausted. The Mahatma is an honorable man, and he is dutifully continuing to supply us with excess oil, even more than we need, even though he needs it far more than we do."
"Interesting," said Zhou. "And if we declare war on India, that trade would be canceled, and the Indians would be able to keep their oil for their own use. I don't think we should let that happen."
"A wise choice," agreed Liu. "Besides, Japan seems to be reaping too much benefit out of the luxury deal. What has he done to deserve six luxury goods, the same number as we have here in marketplaces in China? If we go to war with Japan, and capture their spices or incense, we can sell those to India and make a handsome profit."
Zhou and Zhu continued to consider this, and gradually they became more and more convinced that it was not yet the best time to attack the Indians. An invasion of Japan would open up more possibilities, not to mention the fact that it would probably go more smoothly as well.
There was one last thing Zhou wanted to be certain of before submitting his decision to Mao. He wished to know if China had the appropriate military capacity to wage an overseas war against the Japanese. Would there be enough transport ships to send the forces over to another continent? Did the PLAN have enough sea power to escort those transports, or would they be intercepted and sunk by the Japanese navy? Would the PLAAF be able to provide air cover in case the Japanese air force wished to intervene?
The answer that Commander Zhu provided was a resounding yes. Over the past few years he had long expected a showdown with Tokugawa, and in preparation for that, a large portion of the PLA had been airlifted to Kaohsiung. All that was left was to give them the orders to attack.
For foreign minister Zhou, that was enough to be the last nail in Tokugawa's coffin. Together, the ministers agreed that Japan, and not India, would be the first target of war.
"Excellent work," said Mao when hearing of their decision. "But I heard from Minister Deng today that it might be beneficial for us to acquire the technique of amphibious war from Japan, even though the use of marines is quite limited when our conventional military forces are already so strong."
"Tell him to hand it over," suggested Zhou. "They've demanded that we hand over sanitation before, I don't see what would prevent us from doing the same."
Mao decided that was a great idea, and immediately he dispatched a first transport ship from Kaohsiung, which delivered the message of the ultimatum to the Shogun: "Agree to our demands, or face annihilation."
"What the hell?" shouted an irate Tokugawa. "When did that idiot Mao think he was strong enough to push me around? I was just about to demand technology from the Chinese."
His advisor, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, suggested, "We will respond exactly the same way as they did to us. I'm certain that they are bluffing."
"Well then," Mao said, feigning a sigh. "Poor Tokugawa has just lost his last chance to maintain peace in his land."
"Don't toy with me," snarled Tokugawa. "Get out of my sight."
"Toy with you?" Mao stifled a laugh. "Oh, no, that would be far too kind of us, and certainly not fun enough. No, we will have a big party over on your continent, and then you will be wishing that we were just toying with you."
The Chairman turned to the captain of the transport ship, and gave him a thumbs up. A sudden roar was heard as the tanks on board started their engines, lining up in a single column and steadily rolling off the gangplank. They landed in the pine forest and mountains outside Matsuyama unopposed.
"It was a real pleasure dealing with you, Tokugawa," Mao snickered. "I hope you have fun."
... to be continued
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War!
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
^Ditto man! Finally! Destroy them Japs and take over the continent! 
once you get enough out of them you might reach the domination point. Then, you might want to try India.
once you get enough out of them you might reach the domination point. Then, you might want to try India.
Ansar
Détente avec l'été
Make sure Ghandi cant make nukes.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Once you get manhattan project everyone can make nukes right? Worst off- what if he doesnt have... Can't bear to think of it. 
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conquer_dude said:Once you get manhattan project everyone can make nukes right? Worst off- what if he doesnt have... Can't bear to think of it.
Well I do have 2 sources of uranium. It's just that Manhattan Project isn't enough to build nukes, I also need the tech (space flight for tactical nukes, satellites for ICBMs).
If you referred to the world map you should've seen that I was building some nuclear subs and I need to have uranium in order to do that. You might have been able to spot two sources of uranium. One is up in a mountain in the north by Qingdao, another is in a mountain in northern Japan, outside Nagasaki (soon to me mine
). There is a third uranium in the south by Nanjing, but a mech infantry is parked over it so you can't see it in the map.So as it stands now, Japan has one source of uranium and India has none. And neither of them have the necessary tech for even seeing it on the map.
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So India doesn't have nukes and also Japan for the moment. Great nukes... oh I mean news.
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I would go for Modern Armor so you could upgrade your tanks and rollover the AI with them.
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
I dont care but start the attacks, your citizens are growing inpatient with the Grand Historian. 
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stocktracker said:
If I can even get that far. In hindsight, switching to communism was probably a pretty bad idea, since the government is rather underpowered (in Vanilla at least). Core cities suffer a corruption penalty, and having no trade bonus really makes research a lot more difficult.
I've been told that this has been addressed in the expansion packs, and with the Secret Police HQ communism can be very powerful. Well, too bad for me
DJ Bonebraker
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Well, considering that in communism, all towns get something like 3 free units, cities get 5 and mctropolises get 7, and democracy gets 0, not to mention communism has no WW AND 3 MP per town, you'd be losing far more money on troop support, corruption and luxury spending than you'd be getting from the trade bonus in democracy, so you made the right choice... besides, even though in Vanilla Civ III there is some corruption in core cities, the other side of the story is that even remote border towns (like Nanjing) will not be crippled by corruption (unlike democracy)....
When they added the Secret Police HQ in Conquests, they made the government way too powerful... Espicially since Once I get the tech, I never consider any other government THAN communism, because on difficulties higher than warlord, the AI will make ridiculous demands if they have so much as 25% more troops than you do... Never mind that all of my army consists of the best available units for that particular time and I have Sun Tzu's, so they're all veterans, and the AI has a huge pile of ancient era units... So that when I refuse, of course they go to war and get their butts kicked, then they build up a bunch more crappy units and declare war 20 turns later, and the whole process repeats... If I was stupid enough to be a democracy, I'd be permanantly crippled by WW under those conditions (and believe me, on Monarch and higher difficulties, war with the AI is inevitable).
When they added the Secret Police HQ in Conquests, they made the government way too powerful... Espicially since Once I get the tech, I never consider any other government THAN communism, because on difficulties higher than warlord, the AI will make ridiculous demands if they have so much as 25% more troops than you do... Never mind that all of my army consists of the best available units for that particular time and I have Sun Tzu's, so they're all veterans, and the AI has a huge pile of ancient era units... So that when I refuse, of course they go to war and get their butts kicked, then they build up a bunch more crappy units and declare war 20 turns later, and the whole process repeats... If I was stupid enough to be a democracy, I'd be permanantly crippled by WW under those conditions (and believe me, on Monarch and higher difficulties, war with the AI is inevitable).
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Anyways, communism isn't the worst. Despotism is the worst. 
Where's the update?
Where's the update?
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Hikaro Takayama said:
Communism isn't that great with the low number of cities that I have. I have 11 compared with 12 for India and 17 for Japan, although all of mine are well above metropolis size (smallest one is size 17). In Vanilla, communism gives 2 free unit support per town, 4 per city, and 8 per metropolis. That's quite far from enough, if you saw the shot of my military advisor that I posted earlier:
Sima Qian said:Spoiler :
Japan is still in communism, somehow they never switched out of it after the war with India. The Japanese have 2 towns, 6 cities, and 9 metropolises, giving them free support for 100 units. Of course, the AI seems to have gone nuts in terms of trying to maximize population, so their production sucks as a consequence.
India, in the meantime, is in democracy. That was actually another reason why I didn't want to attack them yet, since with their trade bonus they'll be able to keep up the research, and hopefully I would be able to buy/trade rocketry from them rather than research it myself. On the other hand, this means they could get computers soon too, but since they're exporting their only source of oil to me, I'm not afraid that they'll upgrade.
The military police factor isn't really relevant here... I have marketplaces and every cultural improvement in every city, and JS Bach's, Sistine Chapel, and Cure for Cancer on top of all that, plus four luxuries (I lost the other two when I declared war on Japan). So in each city, that comes out to:
2 citizens start content (on monarch difficulty)
1 unhappy citizen made content by temple
2 unhappy citizens made content by colosseum
6 unhappy citizens made content by cathedral
2 unhappy citizens made content by JS Bach's Cathedral
1 unhappy citizen made content by Cure for Cancer
6 content citizens made happy by luxuries
Basically, a total of 14 content citizens to begin with, and if 6 of them are made happy, then I'm allowed to also have up to 6 other unhappy citizens before they riot. Well, that's a size 20 city already, any more would be specialists and they don't care about happiness.
Heck, I probably could've gotten away with declaring war in republic. If war weariness sets in, just switch a few citizens to entertainers and problem solved.
But thanks for the advice Hikaro, I'll certainly try to use communism more effectively in another game. Probably a 'real' variant where I don't go crazy building culture.
conquer_dude said:Anyways, communism isn't the worst. Despotism is the worst.
Where's the update?
Bah, then I can argue that anarchy is the worst.
I'll try to post an update within 24 hours, been busy with some other stuff lately.
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