The Three Kingdoms; Reloaded

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Preview are in!!!! POST #3

Hi all!!!
a new version of the Three Kingdoms is currently in progress.

working with me is Sarevok (the original creator), and Citizen001(a rotk fanatic).

this version will use the same map, but with different (and hopefully more accurate) city, river, and resource placement.

Each kingdom will have many flavour units, and each hero unit will have unique stats.

This thread is for gathering and sharing ideas and a preview of progress...

Me and citizen001 are way to busy to do anything, hence the inactiviy for god knows how long. files have been passed to TETurkhan
 
Han Dynasty
Tech1.jpg

Early Three Kingdoms
Tech21.jpg

Late Three Kingdoms (shu's tech line)
tech3.jpg

Minimap Preview
minimap3.JPG
 
city names will be translate and put in approximate locations...
major rives will be coast, minor will be rivers
 
varwnos said:
I might be able to work on some cities, but not very soon. Dont know if you actually need them either :D
we'll probably need new cities...
time frame 200-300AD china

i'll try and find some pics
 
hIdDeN_eViL said:
we'll probably need new cities...
time frame 200-300AD china

i'll try and find some pics

I made city graphics based on the Song Dynasty era, but that's 600 years too late. Don't know if you could use them as "generic" graphics. I have the link in my sig. :)
 
Ogedei_the_Mad said:
I made city graphics based on the Song Dynasty era, but that's 600 years too late. Don't know if you could use them as "generic" graphics. I have the link in my sig. :)
these cities can be use i guess, but they look very 2d, possibly because of the colours.
they may look better in game though..
 
Kingdom of Shu-Han

The Kingdom of Shu-Han should have a unique unit which has increased movement and perhaps defense in mountainouse and hilly regions.

After all Shu is situated in the mountainous west of China.

Kingdoms of Wei and Wu

I agree with Wei being cavalry specialists. Perhaps a horse unique unit which has greater movement in plains? Also increased attack but crap defense...after all Wei wasnt strong on defense, the Northern Campaigns of Kongming caught them largely off guard and they lost the Western Capital of Chang An.
They only pushed Zhuge Liang out of the west AFTER beginning a counter offensive.

Indeed Wu's strength lay in its powerful Navy which aided the Kingdoms endurance far beyond the collapse of Shu to Wei/Jin...
A strong navy, or perhaps a unit with no movement penalty over rivers? Should be their UU.

Earlier Scenarios

I propose after getting an actual Three Kingdoms scenario off the ground, that begins at Zhuge Liangs' Northern Campaigns against Wei, starting earlier scenarios?
Included Scenarios could/would be (my desired ones in bold):-
-the Yellow Turban Revolt period after the fall of Xu Chang to the rebels when Liu Bei raises his volunteer army.
-the alliance against Dong Zhuo period after the fall of Ding Yuan and the raising of troops by Cao Cao.
-the Invasion of Yanzhou by Lu Bu (which happens to coincide with Sun Ce's campaign in Jiang Dong).
-the False Emperor Yuan Shu (just because id like to play a game as the Kingdom of Cheng :D ).
-He Bei campaign (the war between Cao Cao and Yuan Shao) and Cao Cao expelling Liu Bei from Xuzhou.
-Liu Bei becomes King of Hanzhong (when Liu Bei seizes "Shu" from Liu Zhang) and the division of Jingzhou.
-Jiang Wei's northern Campaigns (after the death of the mighty Kongming).

Leaders

Here is a tentative list of Military and Scientific leaders (ones i can remember off the top of my head:-
Wei
Cao Cao (King Unit)
Cao Pi (King Unit)
Cao Rui (King Unit)

Military=
Cao Ren
Cao Hong
Xiahou Dun
Xiahou Yuan

Yue Jin
Li Dian
Zhang Liao
Dian Wei
Xu Zhu

Scientific=
Xun Yu
Xun You
Cheng Yu
Guo Jia
Liu Ye
Xu You
Jia Xu
Kuai Yue
Kuai Liang
Sima Yi

Wu
Sun Jian (king Unit)
Sun Ce (King unit)
Sun Quan (King Unit)
Sun Deng (King Unit)

Military=
Lady Sun Shang Xiang
Cheng Pu
Lu Meng
Zhu Zhi
Jiang Qin
Zhou Tai
Gan Ning
Taishi Ci
Chen Wu
Zhang Ying

Scientific=
Zhou Yu
Hua Xin
Lu Xun
Zhang Zhao
Zhang Hong
Lu Su
Sun Jing

Shu
Liu Bei (king unit)
Liu Feng (ok so i know he never reigned but he was the elder child adopted though he was - king unit?)
Liu Shan/Chan (King unit)

Military=
Guan Yu
Zhang Fei
Liao Hua
Zhao Cang
Zhao Yun
Huang Zhong
Ma Chao
Cao Bao
Mi Feng
Guan Ping
Guan Xing
Guan Suo
Zhang Bao
Hu Ban
Wei Yan

Scientific=
Zhuge Liang/Kongming
Xu Shu
Pang Tong
Jian Yong
Mi Zhu
Sun Qian
Jiang Wei

Map
Id rather use the Dynasty tactics as a reference for the map - a lot more city names/placements to draw on - than the RTK map you posted...
 
Angelscotboi said:
Military=
Lady Sun Shang Xiang

looks like somebody's been playing too much Dynasty Warriors. Sun Shang Xiang didn't actually fight in any battles. her fight prowress comes only in a form of art. watch the TV series, it gets partially revealed there.

@Sarevok wouldn't it be better and more organised if we work together in one thread instead of alternating threads.
 
citizen001 said:
looks like somebody's been playing too much Dynasty Warriors. Sun Shang Xiang didn't actually fight in any battles. her fight prowress comes only in a form of art. watch the TV series, it gets partially revealed there.

@Sarevok wouldn't it be better and more organised if we work together in one thread instead of alternating threads.

Yes I know she didnt. I HAVE read the book! :mad:
I just think she is great is all. Need a token kick butt female warrior that isnt Madam Zhu Rong... :lol:

And if you had bothered to read my post properly you would have seen the words "off the top of my head" - meaning i didnt go look at the book to find them.
And my location is SCOTLAND UK. We dont have the TV show here. :crazyeye:

Now if you kindly refrain from flaming me in future post contributions especially ones that I make at half past midnight I would be very pleased...
 
Few people have seen the TV series, might be because it is Chinese. There is one with english subtitles available, you can probably find one at www.yesasia.com

Here's a map with english city names.
rot3kvigamemap1eg.jpg


Here is a large, detailed map of China during this era.


And if you guys ever need any help, feel free to contact me. I'm a big fan of this era.
 
sbennett30188 said:
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And if you guys ever need any help, feel free to contact me. I'm a big fan of this era.

I know. You did my avatar on SimRTK. :D

Thanx by the way.

If you can find a DT version of the map that would be better i think. more cities...
 
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