The Three Kingdoms; Reloaded

you and the rest of the world, I haven't been here or played Civ for that matter since June.... all rather odd. However, with the apathy that always seems to set in after Christmas I've decided to give it a go. I remember Sarevok's Three Kingdoms and I loved them, downloaded every single one and played them all... Wonderful that it's going through a makeover right as I returned
 
varwnos said:
Btw perhaps i shouldnt participate so much in this thread , i am not really contributing anything else anymore ;)

no, actually we really welcome and appreciate your contribution. you're really helping this proj along and doing a helluva lot more than most {[not naming names]}.
 
citizen001 said:
no, actually we really welcome and appreciate your contribution. you're really helping this proj along and doing a helluva lot more than most {[not naming names]}.

Bumping this cos its slipped away to the bottom of the second page.

I just think i should reply to citizen there. I think that is a rather rude thing to say about contributions to the project.
With control largely in the hands of 3 ppl there isnt much anyone can do except make posts in this thread as best they can.

Slagging people off (and dont think i know that you probably mean me) for what you think is a less than satisfactory contribution isnt at all nice.
Every constructive post is a contribution.
 
Angelscotboi said:
Bumping this cos its slipped away to the bottom of the second page.

I just think i should reply to citizen there. I think that is a rather rude thing to say about contributions to the project.
With control largely in the hands of 3 ppl there isnt much anyone can do except make posts in this thread as best they can.

Slagging people off (and dont think i know that you probably mean me) for what you think is a less than satisfactory contribution isnt at all nice.
Every constructive post is a contribution.
guys don't go of flamin...
calm it

anywho.. third tech should be complete within the week as well as fixes to the second tech tree.
 
could u guys come up with hero unit stats...
given that the highest attack of regular ground unit is 11 and defence is 8
 
hIdDeN_eViL said:
could u guys come up with hero unit stats...
given that the highest attack of regular ground unit is 11 and defence is 8

Do you mean like stats for the likes of Lu Bu, Guan Yu, Lie Bei, Cao Cao, Zhang He etc?
 
Angelscotboi said:
Do you mean like stats for the likes of Lu Bu, Guan Yu, Lie Bei, Cao Cao, Zhang He etc?
yeah thats what i meant
btw... dl the zip below
i put ideas for the final tech tree as well as governments(titles) in it
i need imput and opinions
 
Jeez I cant believe im the only one who has had a look at that.

As for "Special" Units of the Heros and their stats. Well what is the most advanced unit int he scenario you have so far? And what is ITS Stats?

And the tech.xls I cant open for some reason.
Yes I have Excel the latest version.
I dont know why but it causes my computer to crash - so i cant tell you anything on it.

But I can give you preliminary ideas on Governments...
In the Three Kingdoms Period there - I think - should be "governments" based upon the Han Imperial Court, the 3 Kingdoms Imperial Courts, a Prefectural Court, and a Governors Court.
Something like "Han Imperial Government" for the Han in earlier scenarios which should be a weak form of Government perhaps an RTK equivalent of a Despotism? It should have VERY VERY high corruption.
And something like "Sanguo Imperial Government" for the 3 Kingdoms which should be a strong Government perhaps the RTK equivalent of Democracy? Low corruption great income from internal commerce but perhaps less income from trade if possible...
For the earlier scenarios for players who are not the Han there should perhaps be 3 Governments. A "Prefecture"/"Protectorate" government for Lords such as Kong Rong, Ding Yuan, and Yuan Shao, Yuan Shu, Cao Cao, Sun Jian, and Liu Bei in earlier scenarios. They should have medium to high corruption (having to pay tribute to the Han which is then wasted by the Eunuchs), and perhaps lower food/industrial goods produced? Like an RTK equivalent of Monarchy...
Also a "Governorship" type government which is like an RTK equivalent of Communism. Its for early scenarios for players who were historically Governors of Provinces such as Han Fu, Kong Zhuo in early years, and Cao Cao, Liu Bei slightly later. Medium corruption because they still pay tribute but greater food/industrial production because of a larger parcel of land that they Govern.
Finally a government for the Yellow Turbans and Zhang Lu to use - somethinf like a "Fundamentalism" But appropriately named for the RTK period. Perhaps the equivalent of Republic? Great income, food and industrial production, but very high corruption (because they are very decentralised)...
 
varwnos said:
At what stage is the scen currently? Are cities placed etc? :scan:
map is fixed, cities and major roads are in, tech tree is half way there, units and govs are being worked out.

Angelscotboi said:
And the tech.xls I cant open for some reason.
Yes I have Excel the latest version.
damn...
look, ive got gov stats in the excel file...
instead of govs, its titles... like what the leader claims to be...
from governor to emporer.
governor is weak, like despotism.
district inspector is good for civil side of things.
general is the best for war, as all units a re free, but huge penalties in other departments.
prime minister is just a better government, averge to better in most things.
emporer is the very best government, with good everything, though less unit support ect.

Angelscotboi said:
As for "Special" Units of the Heros and their stats. Well what is the most advanced unit int he scenario you have so far? And what is ITS Stats?
the best offence is 12 or 13
the best defence is around 9
the best speed is 3 or 4
 
hmm... the link works for me...
oh well... screenshots
scn.jpg

scn2.jpg
 
oops...
just noticed... copper coins - diplomatic finess arrow should be reversed
 
@hIdDeN_eViL tech tree/ govts are fine. just one question, what's rate cap in the governments table?

Angelboy thinks everything i say is insulting or flaming. :lol: besides the 'constructive' posts what has he really done?
 
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