The Three Kingdoms

[Rocoteh]

Suggested new stats: (for TROW)

Medium Pikemen: Shields 130, Move 1, Attack 5, Defense 12 +2HP.

Medium Cavalry: Shields 170, Move 2, Attack 16, Defense 5, +2HP.
Stealth against all with the exception of Pikemen and Cavalry.

Elite Archers: Shields 200, Move 1 , Attack, 20 Defense 4 +1HP.
Stealth against all ground units! Bombard: 16 - 4

Heavy Cavalry: Shields 300, Move 2, Attack 30, Defense 15, +4HP.
Stealth against all except Pikemen and Cavalry.

Rocoteh

 

[Sarevok]

I plan to make a few stat changes myself, but Ill consider yours before I do mine.

 

[Rocoteh]

I plan to make a few stat changes myself, but Ill consider yours before I do mine.

The thought with the suggested changes is to get
a broad cost-scale for units.
I think its to compressed now.

Rocoteh

 

[citizen001]

these should make battles more interesting. but are you going to change any unit graphics into the sengoku thing?

 

[Sarevok]

these should make battles more interesting. but are you going to change any unit graphics into the sengoku thing?

I already did that.

 

[kane77077]

Suggested new stats: (for TROW)



Heavy Cavalry: Shields 300, Move 2, Attack 30, Defense 15, +4HP.
Stealth against all except Pikemen and Cavalry.

Attack 30 ?

 

[citizen001]

yeh, Attack 30? that makes pikemen and spearmen worthless almost.

p.s.
what version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms book do you guys have? and have u seen the television series?

 

[Rocoteh]

Attack 30 ?

Yes, they should also cost 300 shields.
I intend to do a playtest with the new suggested stats.

Rocoteh

 

[kane77077]

What unit would you use to defend against an attack stat of 30?

 

[kane77077]

yeh, Attack 30? that makes pikemen and spearmen worthless almost.

p.s.
what version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms book do you guys have? and have u seen the television series?

One of the better english translations is Three Kingdoms : A Historical Novel translated by Moss Roberts.

I've seen the Chinese tv series at various sites on the web, but I've never downloaded or purchased it (I wouldn't understand the language, so it's just to much to dl.)

 

[Rocoteh]

What unit would you use to defend against an attack stat of 30?

A Heavy Pikeman with stats: 5-20-1, shield cost 230.
Only playtest can tell if this will work well.

Rocoteh

 

[Sarevok]

One of the better english translations is Three Kingdoms : A Historical Novel translated by Moss Roberts.

I've seen the Chinese tv series at various sites on the web, but I've never downloaded or purchased it (I wouldn't understand the language, so it's just to much to dl.)

I have that version as well, it is very good.

 

[kane77077]

... and have u seen the television series?

I've seen the Chinese tv series at various sites on the web, but I've never downloaded or purchased it (I wouldn't understand the language, so it's just to much to dl.)

I finally stopping resisting - I went out yesterday and found it at a local bookstore. They had the series with english subtitles on 58 VCDs, so I bought it. The quality isn't perfect, DVD quality (I'm not sure if that's the nature of the VCD format, or has to do with how it was filmed/edited/burned to disk), but I'm very pleased anyway. Its probably 40+ hours - and I'm only about 3 hours into. It's great.

 

[Sarevok]

I finally stopping resisting - I went out yesterday and found it at a local bookstore. They had the series with english subtitles on 58 VCDs, so I bought it. The quality isn't perfect, DVD quality (I'm not sure if that's the nature of the VCD format, or has to do with how it was filmed/edited/burned to disk), but I'm very pleased anyway. Its probably 40+ hours - and I'm only about 3 hours into. It's great.

sounds interesting. Tell me how good it is, I might check it out.

 

[citizen001]

the acting and special effects on the television series are terrible to say the least, probably the worst you'll see. also halfway through they change the actors for the same character even when they're not aging?? (like Pang Tong and Lu Su) the whole thing took me about 2 weeks to watch so strap on your seatbelts, cause ur gonna be in for a long ride.

P.S. most of the subtitles are in broken english

 

[kane77077]

the acting and special effects on the television series are terrible to say the least, probably the worst you'll see. also halfway through they change the actors for the same character even when they're not aging?? (like Pang Tong and Lu Su) the whole thing took me about 2 weeks to watch so strap on your seatbelts, cause ur gonna be in for a long ride.

P.S. most of the subtitles are in broken english

Also - some events have been changed. Ex : In the Roberts translation of the novel, Xuande(Liu Bei) and Zhang Fei meet Lord Guan in a tavern. In the TV series, the meeting begins as a fight beween Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, but Liu Bei interrupts then they go back Zhang Fei's home. They swear their oaths inside the house, while over wine, not in the peach garden, like in the novel.

 

[Sarevok]

in that case, I wont be watching it. Historical inaccuracy and bad acting would absolutely kill it for me.

 

[citizen001]

but you can't blame them, a full blown master sfx movie would've taken ages to make. this was probably the best they could throw together at that time (also taking into consideration, the budget).

 

[Sarevok]

I think there wold have been great interest in such a project, it would have been made better.

 

[Hooray]

This is a really, really great scenario, Sarevok. I can't thank you enough for making it.

I'm currently playing as Shu in the Three Kingdoms scenario, and as Wu in Rise of Wei. Both games are going quite well.

I'm even hoping I can get a succession game started based on one of these scenarios.