The X-Files: New season

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Spoilers ahoy! I watched My Struggle III last night. Given that it only opens a whole new range of possibilities and includes yet another group of conspirators, only time will tell whether it's a good one. A bit like TFA/TLJ in that respect.

Spoiler :
Who *IS* William's father, then?
 
I stopped watching The X-Files a long, long time ago. Season 3? 4? I don't even remember. Is it worth jumping back in, without going back to catch up?

p.s. I think I saw one of the movies, now that I'm thinking about it. Can't remember a darned thing about it, though. Scully was working in a hospital? With kids? Something like that.
 
I'd recommend that you watch ‘Mulder and Scully meet the Were-Monster’ from last season (S10 E3 IIRC). It's a stand-alone so it spoils nothing about the alien conspiracy, etc. etc.

And yes, I know the name sounds as it sounds.
 
Spoilers ahoy! I watched My Struggle III last night. Given that it only opens a whole new range of possibilities and includes yet another group of conspirators, only time will tell whether it's a good one. A bit like TFA/TLJ in that respect.

Spoiler :
Who *IS* William's father, then?
Warning, spoilers ahead. IMO there no need of putting aired content in spoilers in this thread. Also this thread needs to be in OT if you want activity. :/

I think the episode was OK. They're making an attempt to get new mythology going without ignoring the old one. Sure, ET change their mind about the invasion due to global warming is somewhat silly but hey they had to think of something. I'd rather have that than ignoring the whole paradox.
So the cigarett man didn't get his rapture so is going rogue with an alien virus that kills everybody except a few chosen ones. Much like the invasion was set up to do. I didn't quite get if both Scully and Mulder was infected or what. Anyway the syndicate are now the good guys (we'll see, right?) and a cure needs to be found. In the meantime, there's x-filings to do.
It's OK for a main plot I guess. The problem is that we've seen some of it before. X-files main characters getting infected by some alien virus and a race for an antidote. So it's not original, but let's see how it plays out. May be some interesting twists along the way.

As for as william's father. Well, cancer man says it's him. But who did we think it was before that claim? It was Mulder right? I don't completely remember that stuff. All I remember was that there was alot of drama surrounding Scully's pregnancy and stuff, alien DNA and what have you. At the end he had to be given up for adoption for his own safety. Guess I'll read up on it becomes important to the plot.
I stopped watching The X-Files a long, long time ago. Season 3? 4? I don't even remember. Is it worth jumping back in, without going back to catch up?

p.s. I think I saw one of the movies, now that I'm thinking about it. Can't remember a darned thing about it, though. Scully was working in a hospital? With kids? Something like that.
I'd say no. You'll get higher quality entertainment out of by going back to where you left off. And tbh by now you'd probably need to start from S01 if you want to follow the mythology. As far as I see it, the reboot is for the fans and/or nostalgics. As a fan, I'm glad they rebooted it, but it's not super duper amazing either.
 
The reboot was abysmal. I was a big fan of the show and watched all of them, even the ridiculous ones. Gillian Anderson became a serious actress but she mostly worked in the UK, and was consistently superb on many productions....most recently several seasons of The Fall..

Then she did this awful new season of the X Files. I can't believe they are persisting with it after Chris Carter went so far off the rails.

Serious fans know that Carter ripped off the rather famous Quatermass series and inserted this into the mytharc. See:
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/993851/the_history_of_quatermass.html
 
I wouldn't call it abysmal. But the writing isn't great, it's all a bit off. Perhaps Carter has lost it, perhaps this season will be better. We'll see.

As for copying plots off some ancient sci-fi, who cares..
 
Early on, Chris Carter was mostly known as a showrunner, not a writer, and the strength of the writing staff, who later went on to other important productions, covered his deficits. Morgan and Spotnitz were superb and parlayed their time on the long running series into later significant work.

When Carter was asked about lifting from Quatermass, he originally denied it until the chorus of other hardcore fans and critics became so insistent that it was painfully obvious.

And heck I even enjoyed his Millenium series and the half baked Lone Gunmen series too.

The X Files became as important a cultural icon as Breaking Bad did later and notably an unknown Vince Gilligan worked on both shows, first as a writer than as a a terrific showrunner.
The show though resulted in typecasting both principal actors due to immediate recognition. Luckily the BBC took chances on Anderson and she did exemplary work beginning with the House of Mirth, the Petal and the Rose, the Fall etc.

DD became a terrible self-parody when his real life sex addiction famously blew up his marriage and then he rode the coattails of that to make Californication. How bizarre and grotesque for a talented still young promising actor to do.

The reboot should never have been remade so we could fondly recall the show... warts and all...for it significantly affected American cultural history.

In a way, this is akin to rebooting Twin Peaks although that result was far worse.

Take a look at the subpar failed pilot The After which Chris Carter tried to get off the ground.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/chris-carter-why-amazon-scrapped-856240

GA maintained good relations with the fanbase in spite of being typecast. She always maintained she'd be willing to do more if the script was good. But they weren't,right? The second X Files movie added nothing to the mytharc but just milked it. Which is what CC is doing now from nostalgic fanboys.

DD on the other hand alienated the fanbase (like the pun?) by taking a dump on the idea of UFOs and government conspiracy. It was his infamous William Shatner SNL moment execpt he had the gall to say it at X Files conventions...ad nauseum.

Only a week ago it came out millions were spent recently on DoD testimony on unexplained aerial phenomena caught on flight recorders.
 
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The reboot should never have been remade so we could fondly recall the show... warts and all...for it significantly affected American cultural history.
I can get behind this, at least a bit. The problem is that the reboot hasn't been all bad. It's best episode was actually really good, completely on par with the classics.

And for what it's worth Carter is only credited for writing two episodes this season, one being the season premier.
 
Annet Mahendru did a superb job on the Americans but CC didn't give her much to do in the reboot. What a waste of a talented actress who actually has natural talent and craft.
 
Warning, spoilers ahead. IMO there no need of putting aired content in spoilers in this thread. Also this thread needs to be in OT if you want activity. :/

I think the episode was OK. They're making an attempt to get new mythology going without ignoring the old one. Sure, ET change their mind about the invasion due to global warming is somewhat silly but hey they had to think of something. I'd rather have that than ignoring the whole paradox.
So the cigarett man didn't get his rapture so is going rogue with an alien virus that kills everybody except a few chosen ones. Much like the invasion was set up to do. I didn't quite get if both Scully and Mulder was infected or what. Anyway the syndicate are now the good guys (we'll see, right?) and a cure needs to be found. In the meantime, there's x-filings to do.
It's OK for a main plot I guess. The problem is that we've seen some of it before. X-files main characters getting infected by some alien virus and a race for an antidote. So it's not original, but let's see how it plays out. May be some interesting twists along the way.

As for as william's father. Well, cancer man says it's him. But who did we think it was before that claim? It was Mulder right? I don't completely remember that stuff. All I remember was that there was alot of drama surrounding Scully's pregnancy and stuff, alien DNA and what have you. At the end he had to be given up for adoption for his own safety. Guess I'll read up on it becomes important to the plot.
Scully's immune, Mulder isn't.

I'm still not sure about whether CGB is William's father or not.
 
I'm enjoying it, but I'm more of a nostalgic than a fan. I had a hard time following My Struggle III.. It definitely didn't help that part II aired two years ago.
 
I was so hyped about the 2016 reboot but ended up hating it (with a few exceptions, like M&SMtWM). I just didn't like how Chris Carter decided that the way to make the show 'fresh' was to a) blow up the old mythology and b) write some rather confusing (and, if I do say so, bad) episodes.

Sadly, I have zero interest in watching the new stuff. I probably will because I'm a weakling fan who, despite my issues with the show, keeps coming back for more... but I already know the big 'reveal' and it just solidified my opinion that Carter has no idea what he is doing, nor does he have any interest in actually explaining anything.
 
...and it could have been wonderful because Gillian Anderson is quite an actress now, not that you would know it from last season's bizarre mytharc breaking writing.

I gather that now the evil alien collaborators are being spun into pretend collaborators.

Try watching The Fall. I think you will like it. And there are three seasons.
 
Another episode's coming out tomorrow!
 
...and it could have been wonderful because Gillian Anderson is quite an actress now, not that you would know it from last season's bizarre mytharc breaking writing.

I gather that now the evil alien collaborators are being spun into pretend collaborators.

Try watching The Fall. I think you will like it. And there are three seasons.

I've heard good things about The Fall! I'll have to check that out. Anderson is really quite good now.
 
Yeah that was fairly weird. Perhaps better than the last one but still kinda silly. Can we do some monsters now pls?? ffs..
 
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