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There are 2 hard problems in comp. science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors

This is not a disagreement, simply a clarification. "CE" and "BCE" are the shorthands commonly used in academia. If naught else, using either "G" or "C" moves us away from an incomprehensible admixture (yup :yup: I've never Googled it) of Latin, and - What does BC stand for (besides British Columbia) elsewhere :confused:
 
What does BC stand for (besides British Columbia) elsewhere

That is a great question. I looked it up, and before Before Christ, ante Christum was popular. So then you'd have AC and AD and they'd both be in Latin and everything was in the lingua franca of Europe. However, ante Christum became popular in the early 1600s, whereas Anno Domini dates to the late 700. Perhaps that much longer history, combined with talking more about the recent past as opposed to the very distant past, contributed to why the Latin Anno Domini persists to this day in the English-speaking world, whereas ante Christum was replaced by the vernacular.

On the one hand I like GC as it makes it clear which calendar is being referred to. But BGC - before Gregorian calendar - is less clear without established context. Before the Gregorian calendar was often the Julian calendar, and in some contexts, such as early-1900s Russian history or in parts of the Reformation, it is used to clarify that distinction.

My best prediction is that the default date system will be a configurable option. I personally find it a bit silly to replace the AD/BC abbreviations with CE/BCE, with the same dates, as that still implies that the distinguishing event of the "Common Era" was the birth of Jesus. The only reason I can think of to choose that as the distinguishing point is the religious implications, so CE/BCE puts only the thinnest of veneer over the religious dating system. But ultimately, some reference point must be chosen, it's very difficult to choose a demarcation point that doesn't have religious or political implications, and there are benefits to having a common point of reference. If we all used the AUC system with our respective founding dates of cities of residence as the demarcation point, we'd have a mathematical conversion headache every time we talked about history. Which is probably what happened frequently in ancient times, when AUC was the system of choice, or else the point at which the current monarch or dynasty or consul began. One thing I really appreciate about English translations of Roman historians' works is that the dating system is generally converted into what's common today.

But just as Civ3 allows you to change the date system in a mod, we can make it configurable. Playing a Visigothic scenario? Use the Era of Caesar. Roman? Use AUC. Epic game? Your choice of BC/AD or BCE/CE, or create a mod with your own preference. What we probably won't do is make the demarcation point dynamic. AUC from the time your first city is founded, then AD after Christianity is founded, or the Islamic calendar once Islam is founded? Aside from religions being a Civ4 rather than Civ3 feature, that would likely add more complexity than enjoyment due to added immersion.

Has anyone mentioned yet in this thread that naming things is a hard problem?
 
"CE/BCE" has been the standard in academia for decades. Also, although I heartily agree with you, having watched (from afar) suddenly re-enfranchised COBOL programmers (and decidedly programmers, not coders ( :splat: *) addressing Y2K issues, at the then second largest US bank - that "Pivotal Year 0" is the standard for finance, air traffic controllers, the military ... Even large Asian countries long ago adopted the "Year Zero Thing."

So, my friend, 'tis here to stay. I'm only passingly content because, in Terra Fantasia, the First Era's name has been changed from, "From the Stone To Iron," to, "The Dawning;" the game starts in "1 AD" - the Year 1, After the Dawning."

:D

* My quest to use every emoji, after 20+ years, is still woefully incomplete.
 
OK, I couldn't help myself, especially having discovered that there is a, "Unix Time." ;)

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I know that BCE/CE is the standard in academia, but I have issues with that terminology because... "Common Era"? Common to whom?

BCG/CG was something I made up on the spot for that post, and it should've really been BYOAGC/AGC. "Before Year One According to the Gregorian Calendar", and "According to the Gregorian Calendar", respectively. Sorry for dragging on this pedantry for so long, I didn't know this was something people wanted to obsess over
 
Civ 3: Project Overhaul

But it should probably be shortened to its acronym C3PO to avoid any copyright trouble.
 
Civ 3: Project Overhaul

But it should probably be shortened to its acronym C3PO to avoid any copyright trouble.
Except by calling it "C3PO" (like "R2D2") will result in invoking Disney's notorious Attorneys From Hell
 
Oh... so no Rather Robust Data Designator as a game editor?
 
Like the civ of Eratosthenes?
 
It'd mean it was a win-win situation, right?

i.e. Pyrrhos won the battle and the Romans won the war
 
It'd mean it was a win-win situation, right?

i.e. Pyrrhos won the battle and the Romans won the war
After beating the Romans in battle, he famously said, "Another such victory, and we are lost."
 
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