There will be a third expansion and/or more DLC for Civ5?

[BrokenSky]

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. As I said in the last paragraph, I'm not saying that neither Tibet or Nepal were ever great, I'm saying that whether or not Tibet and/or Nepal were ever great is more relevant to their inclusion than seems to be being addressed, and I'm asking whether this should be more deeply considered.

I'm sorry if this did come across in that way.

p.s. By the way thanks for the info.

p.p.s. Also I don't really like the way civs are automatically considered empires- Personally I think that the title of the civ should be related to the social policies (e.g. Kingdom with tradition or Republic with freedom - maybe empire should be reserved for civs with more than x cities?)

 

[ACivFan]

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. As I said in the last paragraph, I'm not saying that neither Tibet or Nepal were ever great, I'm saying that whether or not Tibet and/or Nepal were ever great is more relevant to their inclusion than seems to be being addressed, and I'm asking whether this should be more deeply considered.

I'm sorry if this did come across in that way.

p.s. By the way thanks for the info.

p.p.s. Also I don't really like the way civs are automatically considered empires- Personally I think that the title of the civ should be related to the social policies (e.g. Kingdom with tradition or Republic with freedom - maybe empire should be reserved for civs with more than x cities?)

No problem, sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[mitsho]

The name of the civs is how the developers chose to handle it in vanilla. Sure that could be changed, but I feel that's nitpicking. (not that doing this is wrong per se).

Though you are wrong, the Tibetan Empire did exist and was quite important. The biggest argument for such a civ though is a gameplay one. There is no civ other than the Inca that benefit big from mountains/hills. Apparently, BNW would have added the Pueblo in such a way (so the developer recognize the potential here as well). But there aren't that many other which could benefit from this terrain: Nepal obviously (hence why it's brought up), but then in no particular order Colombia, Switzerland, Armenia/Georgia, Afghanistan. That's all I can think of, and they all aren't the most interesting candidates.

Also, I say "historical value" isn't important at all, Fun and then Gameplay are better conditions for inclusion.

 

[BrokenSky]

No one said it wasn't important.

At least, not intentionally.

p.s. yes gameplay value is also important. A new mountain civ might be a good idea, but out of the list I'd probably pick Afghanistan and give them trade bonuses as well, maybe a market replacement that gives gold from trade routes which pass through their land? Trade + mountain seems like a nice combo actually.

 

[Menzies]

The name of the civs is how the developers chose to handle it in vanilla. Sure that could be changed, but I feel that's nitpicking. (not that doing this is wrong per se).

Though you are wrong, the Tibetan Empire did exist and was quite important. The biggest argument for such a civ though is a gameplay one. There is no civ other than the Inca that benefit big from mountains/hills. Apparently, BNW would have added the Pueblo in such a way (so the developer recognize the potential here as well). But there aren't that many other which could benefit from this terrain: Nepal obviously (hence why it's brought up), but then in no particular order Colombia, Switzerland, Armenia/Georgia, Afghanistan. That's all I can think of, and they all aren't the most interesting candidates.

Also, I say "historical value" isn't important at all, Fun and then Gameplay are better conditions for inclusion.

With Tibet out of the question Afghanistan (which is arguably more important historically anyhow) would be a very interesting candidate. The issue there is that their part in the game could be largely as part of the silk road and as the grave yard of great empires, rather than some generic mountain civ.

 

[Seek]

With Tibet out of the question Afghanistan (which is arguably more important historically anyhow) would be a very interesting candidate. The issue there is that their part in the game could be largely as part of the silk road and as the grave yard of great empires, rather than some generic mountain civ.

Well considering we don't have *any* mountain civs atm, I fail to see how they could be "generic".

 

[Menzies]

Well considering we don't have *any* mountain civs atm, I fail to see how they could be "generic".

Something can be generic without being common. In this case if the only criterea were "mountain Civ" then it could be a case of having the rough civ in place before any label were put on them. That is, have a mountain based UA and such, then later come and stamp them with "Tibet" or "Nepal" etc. In that way you could call it generic. The point about Afghanistan is that it would be inappropriate to just call them a "Mountain Civ" (as it would be with Tibet and even Nepal for that matter, I'm just expanding on what could make a "generic mountain civ").

 

[BrokenSky]

Well yeah but if Afghanistan were in, then having a trade, mountain, culture-from-history civ thing might be quite good.

I'm thinking a mountain UA, the market UB I suggested earlier and maybe a UI which gives more culture than the normal archaeological monument improvement per era?

 

[SnowKomodo]

To be honest I don't really care what civ they choose (although I prefer Nepal) but I just think a civ that heavily benefits from mountains in a much more meaningful way than the Inca or Carthage would be a great change of pace for the game

Definitely a "mountain civ" supporter, especially after I heard about the lost civ

 

[Menzies]

MOUNTAIN CIV
Leader: Laar JeMontaine
UA: Mountains - Mountain Bonus
UU: Mountain Man - Bonus near mountains
UB: Mountain Lodge - Mountain Tourism Bonus

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I'd like to see a civ with a UA that makes other civs more tolerant of them building cities near them, or building a number of cities (which, on the small maps I play, is often the first precursor to war). I guess this UA wouldn't translate too well to multiplayer though.

 

[BrokenSky]

@ Menzies

Well now you're just being silly

 

[InsanelyApple]

MOUNTAIN CIV
Leader: Laar JeMontaine
UA: Mountains - Mountain Bonus
UU: Mountain Man - Bonus near mountains
UB: Mountain Lodge - Mountain Tourism Bonus

Generic Tibet Mountain Civ
Leader: Songtsän Gampo
UA: People of the Mountains - +2 food and +1 production from each worked mountain tile. Cities gain +5 defense for each adjacent mountain.
UU: Himalayan Warrior - Replaces Swordman. Tiles next to mountains act as roads. Extra defense near mountains.
UB: Stupa - Replaces Temple. +1 faith. +2 culture and +2 faith from mountain tiles.

Tried to make this as generic as possible.

 

[phaethon16]

I just saw an article that said something along the lines of "after 7 years of Civ V, the developers are finally going to put the game to rest." Is it just me or does that mean no more DLC, expansions, or anything?

 

[wigwam]

A stupa is just Buddhist—it's not a Tibetan thing. Most pagodas are stupas.

 

[Nujabes]

I just saw an article that said something along the lines of "after 7 years of Civ V, the developers are finally going to put the game to rest." Is it just me or does that mean no more DLC, expansions, or anything?

It certainly implies finality, although I figure they'll reevaluate once they've got some sales figures in their hands.

 

[moysturfurmer]

Israel: religion/espionage
Kongo: trade/growth
Sumer: culture/great writer
Vietnam: defense/culture
Sioux: horse/horse/horse
Gran Colombia: golden age/military
Tibet: mountain/religion/isolationist

New city style graphics
New post-game replay
Handful of new skins for some of the basic unit types (warrior, swordsman, musketman etc)
Some mechanic to make bonus resources more interesting/important (health/corporations/domestictraderoute stuff)

And THEN Civ V will be complete

 

[phaethon16]

It certainly implies finality, although I figure they'll reevaluate once they've got some sales figures in their hands.

I know I certainly don't want civ 6, because I've become a little too invested in civ 5 to want to change to something new. I just hope that we get something more from civ 5 after BNW.

 

[omnishakira]

an ai oriented dlc or expansion plz

 

[God of Kings]

MOUNTAIN CIV
Leader: Laar JeMontaine
UA: Mountains - Mountain Bonus
UU: Mountain Man - Bonus near mountains
UB: Mountain Lodge - Mountain Tourism Bonus

His theme music would be based on Grieg's In the Hall of the Mountain King of course.