Jawz II
Oh Dear
true, but it was a copy of the mauser.
point. i thought the thread was about all guns.
Top 10 combat rifles
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true, but it was a copy of the mauser.
point. i thought the thread was about all guns.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
The '03 resembled the mauser action but it wasn't simply a copy of the mauser like an M48. The superior sights, and the later excellent A3 sights being the main difference.
It was pretty much designed from scratch.
It was pretty much designed from scratch.
Jawz II
Oh Dear
yeah except from the action that is an exact copy of t he mauser. and the action is the most important part of the rifle.
actually there was a time when all bolt action rifles were referred to as a "mauser". in europe at least.
the springfield might be a better rifle, just like most bolt actions of today are better rifles than the 98 (89?) mauser, but i still put the mauser higher up.
cause they "invented" that design.
actually there was a time when all bolt action rifles were referred to as a "mauser". in europe at least.
the springfield might be a better rifle, just like most bolt actions of today are better rifles than the 98 (89?) mauser, but i still put the mauser higher up.
cause they "invented" that design.
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
BTW the Mauser is still in action, well in some way, as the Wachbataillion, which greets foreign politicians for example, is still parading with the 98.
But not more in combat however.
Adler
But not more in combat however.
Adler
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
I don't really see why assault rifles are in this category. Yes, they share similarities with rifles, but are entirely another class of weapons in my eyes.
That aside, shouldn't you have put the MP-44 on there? As the AK-47 really is a knock-off of that. No matter how much Kalashnikov denies it, it's true. The similarities are too close to be coincidence.
That aside, shouldn't you have put the MP-44 on there? As the AK-47 really is a knock-off of that. No matter how much Kalashnikov denies it, it's true. The similarities are too close to be coincidence.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
They are in the same catagory of individually deployed small-arms. (Combat rifles)
The AK-47 only resembles the Stg44 in first glance appearance. But the similarity stops there. The AK is a completely different rifle. Kalashnikov's design is more mechanically similar to the M1 Garand than the Stg44.
Kalashnikov is right to get pissed at people accusing him of ripping off the Stg44.
The only thing the Soviets really copied was the Kurz cartridge which they improved significantly with the 7.62x39 cartridge. This cartrige was around in the SKS for a while before the AK-47 was produced.
Historically I believe the Stg44 is overrated. Its not even the first "assault rifle" according to its own definition.
Jawz II
Oh Dear
the lee enfield was considered an assault rifle when it was introduced.
the ak-47 really is not a knock off of stg-44. dont judge a book by its cover.i know they look kinda similar, but dont let that fool you.
its not true at all, the way they work are totally diffrent, there was no design similar to that of ak-47 before he made it. he dosent have to deny it, if you find out how each rifle works you would know this. i dont know the name of many of the parts in a rifle in english or i would explain it to you.
also the banana magazine was first used for a russian assault rifle that only made it to prototype stage years earlier (first assault rifle ever iirc).
check wiki for more info.
the similarities, i think the back end of it (reciver?) and the front part above the barrel look alot like G3, the things it has in common with ak-47 is the banana magazine, the size and the front sight.
im sure the russians were somewhat inspired by the looks of stg-44, but the action is much more important than the looks.
Jawz II
Oh Dear
i had a beautiful picture on my harddrive of some kurdish women, 1 armed with a kar-98, 1 armed with a m1 garand , 1 armed with a G3 and another one armed with a browning highpower 9mm.
ill try to dig it up.
please do that would be a great photo
Jawz II
Oh Dear
there you go:
file name says kurdish rebels 1980, probably Iraq. also its kinda hard to tell which pistol it is, so browning highpower was probably just my guess.
ps.now that i look at it im not so sure the rifle is a kar-98 either.
file name says kurdish rebels 1980, probably Iraq. also its kinda hard to tell which pistol it is, so browning highpower was probably just my guess.
ps.now that i look at it im not so sure the rifle is a kar-98 either.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
From left to right.
H&K G3, M1 Garand, Makarov pistol, K98, M1911A1 pistol.
H&K G3, M1 Garand, Makarov pistol, K98, M1911A1 pistol.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
Its probably a Turkish mauser bayonet.
amadeus
Apply directly to the forehead
Of the ones I've seen, I like the FAL.
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
This was only a problem when it was first introduced, after about a year of production all the bugs were worked out. I used one for 2 years and it never jammed on me
