Top 5 inventions ever

You rank the printing press above agriculture?
I'm not sure I consider "agriculture" an invention. Its a knowledge base, but its not an "invention." I guess maybe the term feels to vague to me. What, specifically, do we mean by saying "agriculture is an invention"?

If the question was along the lines of advances, then yeah, I think we'd all have to agree that it's included.
 
1. Language, or primitive forms thereof

I gave this some thought recently... Don't you think that maybe language is a genetical thing of humans, considering our unique greatly adapted mouth&tongue which make articulated language possible? So that "language" evolved directly from human instinct, and so it was never "invented"? :)
 
I gave this some thought recently... Don't you think that maybe language is a genetical thing of humans, considering our unique greatly adapted mouth&tongue which make articulated language possible? So that "language" evolved directly from human instinct, and so it was never "invented"? :)

No. I would say that your argument does not make sense because every action ever made by a human was caused by "human instinct."

Our ability to communicate may have evolved over time, but spoken language is as much an invention as writing, fire, or agriculture.
 
I'm not sure I consider "agriculture" an invention. Its a knowledge base, but its not an "invention." I guess maybe the term feels to vague to me. What, specifically, do we mean by saying "agriculture is an invention"?

If the question was along the lines of advances, then yeah, I think we'd all have to agree that it's included.

I guess it's pretty similar to writing, then. It's not a mechanical invention so much as the creation of a process. People say that agriculture was "discovered" as if someone brushed away some topsoil and saw it lying there for the taking. Not so. It's as much an invention as internal combustion.
 
I guess it's pretty similar to writing, then. It's not a mechanical invention so much as the creation of a process. People say that agriculture was "discovered" as if someone brushed away some topsoil and saw it lying there for the taking. Not so. It's as much an invention as internal combustion.
I don't think so. You don't just discover combustion. there are many processes and that must be understood and put together very delicatley to produce motion from a controlled explosion. Agriculture on the other hand is simply discovered by observing plants growing recognizing the useful ones and putting them together in one spot.
 
Keep telling yourself that. To some extent, you're absolutely correct, but with regard to rubbing two sticks together, you're wrong.

Why do people use that phrase? How is "keep telling yourself that" an argument, and do you think that this claim is tied into my self-esteem? And anyways, why doesn't it apply in this case?
 
I don't think so. You don't just discover combustion. there are many processes and that must be understood and put together very delicatley to produce motion from a controlled explosion. Agriculture on the other hand is simply discovered by observing plants growing recognizing the useful ones and putting them together in one spot.

Okay, it's easier to discover agriculture than combustion. How does that mean that agriculture can't be invented? Someone had to be the first person to plant and harvest crops.
 
Actually, agriculture developed independently at least a dozen times (if I recall) so it wasn't just "one guy" doing it. In fact, it is somewhat counterintuitive to a hunter-gatherer.

Exactly. People make it sound as if the discovery of agriculture was relatively obvious, but that's only true through the lens of our modern society. To someone with a nomadic lifestyle based on hunting and gathering, staying in one place rearing crops was anything but obvious.
 
Spoken Language
Bipedal Ambulation
The Stick and The Rock (basic tools)
Fire-Making
The Nuclear Family (division of labor tasks and child-rearing)


-Elgalad
 
1. The Internet
2. Books
3. Schools
4. Inventions
5. CFC!!!!!
 
white bread
cheddar cheese
toaster
tomatoes
ceramic bowls



;)
 
I'm really surprised no one has mentioned canning.

Probably more important than agriculture, because grow all the food you want, if you can't have your food last, your humped.

EDIT: It's also more important than refrigeration which is nothing more than a stop gap ;)
 
Spoken Language
Bipedal Ambulation
The Stick and The Rock (basic tools)
Fire-Making
The Nuclear Family (division of labor tasks and child-rearing)


-Elgalad

lmao, the nuclear family. it's the 8 track of family structures.
 
Given the recent developments:

1. Sliced bread
2. Canned goods. Now you can make your sliced bread last longer
3. GPS. Now you can find your canned sliced bread anywhere in the world
4. Can opener: what good is finding your canned sliced bread if you can't open the can?
5. The Internet, so you can open a thread on CFC about how you found this awesome canned sliced bread with your GPS, but you forgot a can opener and need to borrow one.


-Integral

Yes, I know that you normally don't can sliced bread. Artistic liscense.
 
Writing. a revolution in communication, but also in thought. easier to think in abstract and complex terms when you can write stuff down. Applications in diplomacy, record keeping, commerce, mathematics, religion...

The Internet. I don't think we've seen just how far this thing can go. It was primarily communication at first, and then commerce became valuable... now it's changing the way we produce and tearing down old industries. I wouldn't be surprised if a global network enables a whole new military doctrine. I'm not ashamed to speculate that this will be a big one, when the dust finally settles.

Agriculture. Definitely allowed an abundance of food, but it created a huge ripple effect. You can't have a specialized economy without an abundance of food. Without agriculture, everyone would spend their day trying to secure the necessities of life. Agriculture lets a few people focus on that, while other people focus on other things -- Mining, Warfare, Science, Building, Trading...

Electricity. This changed the way people work. It allowed new methods of communication, and thus changed warfare. In terms of sheer impact, this was a big one.

Printing Press. Strictly a communication technology, even more narrow in its use than writing and the internet. But still just as revolutionary. Allowed the scientific revolution, the rise of democracy, the criticism of religion, and even had some interesting cultural and artistic impact.

All pretty non-controversial candidates for top 5, if you ask me. But fire, vaccination, money, paper, double-entry book keeping, religion, statistics, factories, evolution, and contraceptives are all pretty important inventions/discoveries.
 
Given the recent developments:

1. Sliced bread
2. Canned goods. Now you can make your sliced bread last longer
3. GPS. Now you can find your canned sliced bread anywhere in the world
4. Can opener: what good is finding your canned sliced bread if you can't open the can?
5. The Internet, so you can open a thread on CFC about how you found this awesome canned sliced bread with your GPS, but you forgot a can opener and need to borrow one.


-Integral

Yes, I know that you normally don't can sliced bread. Artistic liscense.


Now since when have you ever had sliced bread in a CAN! :crazyeye: :lol:
 
1:The canoe, boat, ship or whatever came first. A way to travel on water.

2:The means to kill another human being.

3:Religion.

4:Money. Coins or paper.

5:The printing press.
 
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