thenooblet22
King
Yet, those lives would be most likely soliders, not innocent Bobians
P.S. Please try to keep with the nicknames, it's funnier that way wee
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Yet, those lives would be most likely soliders, not innocent Bobians
P.S. Please try to keep with the nicknames, it's funnier that way wee
JonnyB
Workaholic
The capital city is full of women. I'd send them Brad Pitt, he'll convince them to rebel against their queen in a matter of hours.
Not only send Brad Pitt, you could also send Tom Cruise and a couple of other people then you would be able to start a rebellion.
Perfection
The Great Head.
So soldiers lives are worth less? I don't see it that way.
The situtations between Japan and Bobistan are different and so it would it would be confusing to the reader if I refered to Bobistan instead of Japan when drawing out the difference between the situations.
Perfection
The Great Head.
The interesting thing is that if all the people in Bob City are over 70 or under 16, then the Queen must be too (because she's a person in Bob City). That means the soldiers are either pedophiles or really love wrinkles.
thenooblet22
King
Soldiers are enlisted in an army, armed for combat, and more likely, ready to die for their country (that doesn't mean they're not scared) Innocent Bobians are living their lives. They cannot escape this situation. Instead of liberating them, we obliterate them. Yeah that seem efficient [insert rolling eyes to add discomfort]
The nicknames are the only things keeping this thread from being closed. As you can tell, there is already a thread about the Japanese crisis a few threads above or below. This thread is over the Bobistan situation
Fugitive Sisyphus
Escape Artist
Though this thread was inspired by the "Was it necessary to drop the bomb?" thread I don't think the hypothetical scenario is really comparable to Japan and the United States at the end of WWII. The purpose is merely to see how far the head of a country should sacrifice his own people (time and money, not lives) in order to protect others not of his country.
I was thinking though. There needs to be 100,000 Alexians which means 1,000,000 people-years sacrificed by Alexania. If dropping a nuclear bomb on Bob City resulted in less than or equal to 1,000,000 people-years lost by the Bobians (i.e. most of the inhabitants of Bob City are really old and wouldn't live 10 years longer) would it become right to drop the bomb?
I was thinking though. There needs to be 100,000 Alexians which means 1,000,000 people-years sacrificed by Alexania. If dropping a nuclear bomb on Bob City resulted in less than or equal to 1,000,000 people-years lost by the Bobians (i.e. most of the inhabitants of Bob City are really old and wouldn't live 10 years longer) would it become right to drop the bomb?
thenooblet22
King
I'm sure you can explain those statistics to the relatives of the disintegrated families. If we can't have the moral ground, then this is a very hollow victory... for the Alexians
Fugitive Sisyphus
Escape Artist
"There are 100,000 people in Bob City and they are all female, or under 16. or over 70."
thenooblet22 said:
Of course, if you choose blockade, you will have to explain to your citizens why so many of their husbands, sons, and brothers are going to be separated from them for ten years.
thenooblet22
King
Drat, you caught me! I was talking about the Japanese war and you were cleary talking about the Bobistans. You win, disgard my comment
And where exactly did the soldiers come from? They didn't happen to be taken from their homes, families, friends, jobs and shipped halfway around the world did they?
The soldiers were innocent Civilians until the Bobians attacked.
MjM
Deity
Boobistan will fall.
Bobania will fall for the simple sake of having a sucky name.
The OP clearly states that the Alexian blockaders won't be killed by the Bobians so I can't see how it would save lives.
colontos
King
Seriously, this is never a decent argument. In any decision there is someone who will shed a tear, this is the nature of life. I don't care how anyone feels, I care about what gets done.
"But what if one of those Bobanians was your relati- *gack*!"
No. Doesn't fly.
As to the OP, are the Bobanian soldier occupying a number of other countries, perpetrating atrocities on them every day, did they start the war with a sneak attack, are they allied to a genocidal fascist state while engaging in quasi-genocide themselves, are they abducting young girls every day for sexual service, is the queen wavering on the decision to surrender but her generals have a plan to depose her to continue the war, are they training all the residents of the islands to resist in every way possible? If all of the above are true (especially the bold ones), then nuke them.
Irish Caesar
Yellow Jacket
In this case, the blockade seems like the way to go.
There will be no combat deaths, and to those saying that sailors will be stationed for ten years straight, why would you think that? It would seem to me that there would be regular tours in and out of blockade, some being honorably discharged once their commitment is over, some enlisting at 18 to serve an honorable and relatively not-dangerous tour. The Alexian Navy will be out patrolling the seas anyway, so it's not like a blockade would cost extra; we're already paying for ships and supplies and troops.
Of course, if the presidential term in Alexia ends before ten years are up, all bets are off...
There will be no combat deaths, and to those saying that sailors will be stationed for ten years straight, why would you think that? It would seem to me that there would be regular tours in and out of blockade, some being honorably discharged once their commitment is over, some enlisting at 18 to serve an honorable and relatively not-dangerous tour. The Alexian Navy will be out patrolling the seas anyway, so it's not like a blockade would cost extra; we're already paying for ships and supplies and troops.
Of course, if the presidential term in Alexia ends before ten years are up, all bets are off...
Chandrasekhar
Determined
What if the potentially hostile country of Charliestan will potentially invade before the ten years are up and take the country and its resources for itself?
thenooblet22
King
Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier, you must've edited it in. So now your answer it's better to obliterate the rather then seperate them? "Never see them, or see them in a couple of years...Hmm" Now if you read my earlier posts, you would understand I do not support either of the poll answers. I would approve of the nuking of a more appropriate target; a signifigant base or outpost. It's the cream of this black and white cookie
Okay, so you're saying it's more humane to kill a blindfolded civilian than to kill the guy armed with a rifle? (an analogy, not literally)
So you want to nuke two whole cities filled with thousands just because you resent their oppressive, totaltarian government? Let's just draw a line connecting to the scenario of terrorists committing suicide bombings in protest of capitalism, and then we'll see where your position still stands
thenooblet22
King
I already called this country Uncle Joe! but fine
Chandrasekhar
Determined
I already called this country Uncle Joe! but fine
Ah, whoops. I must have missed it. Charliestan is a better name anyway.
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