Try-05: Ludicrous Speed!

[Trynthlas]

Still no sign of Asaf, so I'd say you're up, cripp.

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

Think its back to you cripp unless the other guy is back??

 

[cripp7]

ok, no problemo. I'll pull up a plan

ppp
Run 5-7 turns of 0% to upgrade swords to maces, we'll have 6 maces/3 axes/5 cats. building a few more cats will help.
Keep research Optics>Feud

 

[Trynthlas]

I'm thinking we could DoW without the upgrade, provided there aren't a ton of longbows in the first city. Then use conquest $$$ to upgrade as we go, and thus don't have to run 0% research.

 

[cripp7]

Still think we need to wait a couple 3 turns at 0% while 2 swords and another cat show up, then DoW and up the slider to 70-80% for Optics in 4t

 

[Trynthlas]

Still think we need to wait a couple 3 turns at 0% while 2 swords and another cat show up, then DoW and up the slider to 70-80% for Optics in 4t

go for it!

 

[cripp7]

IHT-
SB1 hire 2 scientists
SB4 ^^
SB5 mace
run deficit for Optics

Turn 156-
SB3 duct>galley
SB5 mace>impi

Turn 157-
SB1 mace>cat
SB4 cat>cat
SB5 impi>cat

Turn 158-
SB3 galley>mace

Turn 159-
slider to 100% Optics 2t
with our SoD call up Wang

Spoiler :

Turn 160-
spy pillaged our iron!
SB4 cat>spy
SB5 cat>cat
SB6 court>

Turn 161-
Optics > Monarchy
SB3 mace>xbow
Pyong only quarded by 2 swords bombard, attack, it's ours no losses

Turn 162-
Monarchy > Feud
SB1 cat>worker
regrouping units

Turn 163-
SB2 mace>duct
SB4 spy>xbow
units moving to Soul

Turn 164-
Feud > Currency
SB3 xbow>caraval
slider to 0%

Turn 165-
SB1 worker>xbow
SB3 caraval>colosseum
assign 2EP to Toku

Turn 166-
SB4 xbow>caraval
Soeul is guarded by 2 CG3DrI LBs/hwacha, bombard to 0%

Turn 168- (missed a turn??)
SB1 xbow>LB
SB7 (former Pyong) ikhanda
Seoul (SB8) is ours, 3 cats die


Stop here, need to discuss which cities to take. he won't cap yet

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

I would take and keep his city in the south (Wonsan??) and then burn the one in the west to clear way as is not in ideal position to take gold resource nearby. After that vassal him if poss if not burn rest of cities until he will. After Currency where do we go??

We could go straight to Astro to make use of trade routes to other continents we are to find. Or we could go Guilds - Banking for Mercantilism which could be profitable combined with Rep??

Think I am towards Banking at moment.

However if we are planning on war mongering we will need Galleons soon to transport troops.

 

[cripp7]

I think currency >Astro to get banks, observatories and galleons and then go up the chemistry line. Merc, i'm not sure about at the moment as we have trade routes with the other AIs. I think adopted once we go to war. I'll finish up tomorrow morning

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

We currently only have domestic trade routes until Astro, Toku will struggle to get open borders with him and WK will only have a city or two left after we finish with him. All others will need Astro for trade routes. If we go Currency=>Gulids=>Banking for Merc means we will get a free specialist with little/no trade route penalty. With Rep bonus we could get another 50+beakers per turn.

 

[cripp7]

how far down do we want to go before we vassal WK? Forgot that about the trade routes! I'll have a problem going with that!

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

I would go for Wonson first keep that, then go for Pusan and burn that. I would burn it as I think the site 1SE is better as it would get the gold resource in the BFC. There is one city Ulsan which we have not yet found, I think this is south of Wonsan, this would be in Tundra so more than likely a poor city. If he will vassal once he is down to Ulsan, Cheju and Nampo then I would take that, if not then burn as many of them as it takes.

 

[Trynthlas]

Is it worth it to vassal him with only 1 or 2 cities left? At that point I usually tend to just go for total conquest.

 

[cripp7]

Ok, continuing on then

Turn 169-
Currency>Guilds
SB3 colosseum>cat
SB5 cat>duct
Meet Cyrus

Turn 170-
SB4 Caravel>cat

Turn 171-
SB1 cat>duct
SB3 cat>lb
slider to 50% Guilds 5
bombard Wonsan

Turn 172-
GP born in SB1, sent to SB2 to create shrine
bombard Wonsan
Impi kills barb archer guarding a hut, pop scout

Turn 173-
SB3 lb>market
created shrine in SB2
bombard Wonsan
meet Mansa

Turn 174-
SB4 cat>islam mission
captured Wonsan, losing 2 cats, 3 swords

turn 175-
SB2 duct>grocer
Meet WvO, trade map>map+50

Stop here. Got our army regrouping at Pusan, WK only has 4 cities left which I think we should just finish him.
Met WvO, Mansa and Cyrus who have a good tech lead so we need to discuss tech path and trades. Also looks like one of the Americans also

Spoiler techs-map :

 

[Trynthlas]

HBR and Drama no biggie, but the other 3 are kind of big techs. Ouch for backwards continent

Good job on war! Will poke at the save later.

The Dwaarf is up!

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

I nearly wrote the other day whilst trying to push for Optics beeline that we could be in real trouble if we have Mansa and WvO on the other continent trading away to a big tech lead!!

Will check out the save tomorrow and see whats going on.

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

We should be able to trade for all techs bar either Philo or Eng.

Our Economy is struggling a bit. We should look to get FP up sooner rather than later, we are one courthouse short so we should get that done and probably look to build down south somewhere in either Seoul or Pyongyang.

I am leaning towards keepin Cheju but not fussed either way. Nampo should go and Pusan too (we should resettle 1SE), Ulsan could be kept too. After WK are we looking to go after Toku??

Once Banking in revolt to Merc and then probably Astro (I think it is too late for any sort of Lib push).

Good news we seemed to have finally got our shrine built should look to spread the word of Islam around to make use of it.

 

[Trynthlas]

Toku eventually, sure, but we still have a decent bit of room to expand (some good city sites) before doing so, I think.

 

[Mighty Dwaarf]

The only problem is we will have lots of spare troops costing us with not much to do once WK done for.

 

[Trynthlas]

Well, by power ratings Toku is pretty weak, so I imagine we'd have no issues beating him down if we want to do that. Still have to finish up on Wang, though!