Turn Discussion Thread

[AlphaShard]

So with the GM that they would get from us teching Economics, they can do it.
Not that I want to.

I think it's a necessary evil unfortunately. We can't be seen as greedy if we want any hope of making sure we don't get dog piled.

 

[Irgy]

So what did we end up researching last turn? Amazon pointedly failed to get back to us about how far through Economics they were, so I'd imagine we just give up and research Scientific Method, and then start on our way to either the Physics scientist or Communism Spy.

 

[AlphaShard]

Well Husch did say they had probably been teching Economics for 12-13 turns and they said said they had about 6 left to go. We do want our FM before the GA runs out so Husch changed it back and I am proposing we hand the GM right over and make our own. That way we get FM, they get there GM, and probably the GA they want to use him for.

I was under the impression you didn't want to hand over the Sci Meth tech and leave them blocked at it. So we teched a turn of Economics, they also didn't settle there remaining two settlers.

 

[HUSch]

We can also resume, that Ama has no unknown GP for a GA. The same is right for Quat.

We research econ to get FM and then we give a GP to Ama that they get their GA. That 'll we doing if they are better in communication.


btw
I 've test it, our EI will not push out, if we declare war. That gives us a better making of the war planing

 

[Alltriia]

Sweet! Loaded with units?

 

[HUSch]

Perhaps we should change our priorities. So I 've made a agreement proposal to Quat

 

[HUSch]

There are some units at the EI, but we need more than 4 cannons at the first landing. That is the plan, no other ideas are here posted. I don't want to lost this army, because the cats make meat of it.
Please, I don't know who moved them, but before you do it, post a plan for that.

Attack turn is 1210 in 3 turns, our units should go at ships in 1200 and the ships go to the landing site, At 1210 we declare war, land our troops and the ships go back to take the next/more troops. What is your ideas about it?

We should send the Quat our /my proposal. If we go against Gold first, we can take the troops from Bode, theoretical also from coast south of Vega, but best at our old reforcement tile.

 

[HUSch]

Next turn we 've to decide our civics, so make vote please.
The sit is
Alpha wants/prefers Bureau and Theo or Orga
I want at least 1 military civic and prefer Vassal and orga.

btw
I looked at F4-Info and see that Ama and Mer is in despotism, the latter (I think) with Espionage, but I couldn't see in log the turn when they change to this, I don't understand it.
The last turn Ama gave no EsP, so they 've anarchy but the change in civics (to Eman and nationhood) is at turn 1160

 

[HUSch]

another prop for civics is Free Speech (+100% in ) against Ama [tit for tat] FS for eman. But this is not my real vote

 

[HUSch]

btw
I made some change in working tiles and don't like the dry in Betei, if we build in Achenar and Rigel.
Especial working most this next 2 turns, then rechange to more food.

 

[Irgy]

Beauro-Theo for me. OR has high upkeep and we won't be making the most of it because we're at the mostly-units end of the game, I think. Beaurocracy should be giving us an excellent commerce capital when we finally get around to building Oxford in it.

 

[AlphaShard]

Are we going to be able to handle Eman? The last time someone pulled that on me I had +8 people in my cities from that civic. It was such a pain and difficulty to manage. I feel like were entering a real passive aggressive phase with Amazon now.

As for the forces I still think we need 1-2 more EI to transport our troops to Mav island.

 

[AlphaShard]

Here's the message cleaned up a bit I think:

Greetings Quatronia,

Soon comes the time to finish Maverick’s fate, with just there Island left to conquer soon our two armies will converge and deliver the Mavericks into oblivion. However we wish to coordinate the conquest of the last Maverick cities, to reduce losses and avoid city capture conflicts. We wish to avoid the mistakes of the past and make a glorious future destroying the foul Mavericks.

We wish to discuss which cities to conquer; Injinya with the Pyramids is a useful city. We wanted you to take that city for yourselves attacking from the south, while we come in from the north and take the Iron and Gold cities.
What do our comrades the Quatronia think?

Sincerely Sirian

 

[Irgy]

Did you mean to post that in the diplo thread? Not that it matters. Looks good to me Husch+AlphaShard. Maybe should be phrased so that it sounds more like we're doing them a favour giving them Injinya rather than giving them what we want. How about this (after "which cities to conquer;"):

We were considering holding back on taking the Pyramids city Injinya, in exchange for your letting us take our time to conquer Iron city and Gold city.

 

[AlphaShard]

Yes that looks good Irgy, you can send it with those changes if you want.

 

[Alltriia]

I feel like were entering a real passive aggressive phase with Amazon now.

Since they started to settle on Anjennida, for me.


I'm against coordinating with Q. Diplomaticly, we're nowhere with Amazons and CDZ still haven't replyed. We're like the ugly duckling.
Not the best judjement, but we better start to build up our military SERIOUSLY and go for a conquest victory.

We have been the best asset for the ETTT and we put our hearts out in it while others pile up money to upgrade.

Am I getting too paranoid?

 

[BLubmuz]

We have been the best asset for the ETTT and we put our hearts out in it while others pile up money to upgrade.

Am I getting too paranoid?

You posted what i said since months. (3 at least)

 

[BLubmuz]

Yes that looks good Irgy, you can send it with those changes if you want.

Yes, please do so Irgy, with the variant you proposed.

If they answer, OK, otherwise i'd like to see their stack to dust by Mavs' cats.

 

[HUSch]

About Quat and the sit at Injinya.
We can allways go at Gold first. I don't think, that will be Quats first object, they 've a long way to it.

 

[AlphaShard]

Sounds like a plan.

Could someone take caps of this turn (1190)?