AlphaShard
Emperor
I think we need to make the change soon. I think we just need a choice post from Alltriia, Trystero and Irgy. 
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Trystero
Deity
My vote:
US, Bureaucracy or FS (not sure which is better), Eman, FM, Theo.
US, Bureaucracy or FS (not sure which is better), Eman, FM, Theo.
BLubmuz
HoF Quattromaster
I considered Nationhood too, but we probably do not need the draft with our production capabilities. So, despite the high maintenance, Bureau it's better, i think.
@Alpha
I think Irgy shares my choices, but better if he confirm.
FS can couple well with US, but we can hurt Ama, so i think it's better wait next GAge (remember we have a GS ready, so i think right after Physics) when the ETT and the NAP are gone.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Yeah I just want confirmation so theres no misunderstanding.
Universal Suffrage, Free Speech, Emancipation, Free Market and Theology.
Do drafted units come into play with the experience bonous, too?
EDIT:
I better explain myself.
US for the town hammers and ability to rush.
FS to make a passive stand against Amazon culture expansion plus the extra town commerce.
FM is a no-brainer.
Theo for the extra XP for units and negation of religion bonous to other civs from our cities.
EDIT2: We better start building cottages on Comet and spread Confusionism there, too.
Do drafted units come into play with the experience bonous, too?
EDIT:
I better explain myself.
US for the town hammers and ability to rush.
FS to make a passive stand against Amazon culture expansion plus the extra town commerce.
FM is a no-brainer.
Theo for the extra XP for units and negation of religion bonous to other civs from our cities.
EDIT2: We better start building cottages on Comet and spread Confusionism there, too.
AlphaShard
Emperor
@Alltriia: We have a worker on Comet already starting on Cottages. 
I've never drafted units so I don't know but I would hope that they did. But then if you don't train them they technically wouldn't since they were drafted but then sometimes realism is dropped for gameplay reasons.
So far the voting looks like this:
So five for US, 3 solid votes for Bureau and a "half vote", 5 for Eman, 6 for FM, and 5 for Theo looks like we will be doing:
Universal Sufferage, Bureaucracy, Eman, FM and Theo.
I'll wait for Irgy to confirm his vote and we can change.
I've never drafted units so I don't know but I would hope that they did. But then if you don't train them they technically wouldn't since they were drafted but then sometimes realism is dropped for gameplay reasons.
So far the voting looks like this:
So five for US, 3 solid votes for Bureau and a "half vote", 5 for Eman, 6 for FM, and 5 for Theo looks like we will be doing:
Universal Sufferage, Bureaucracy, Eman, FM and Theo.
I'll wait for Irgy to confirm his vote and we can change.
So five for US, 3 solid votes for Bureau and a "half vote", 5 for Eman, 6 for FM, and 5 for Theo looks like we will be doing:
Universal Sufferage, Bureaucracy, Eman, FM and Theo.
I'll wait for Irgy to confirm his vote and we can change.
Confirmed. Those are all my votes, so I'm happy.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Okay civics have been changed to Teams vote of US, Bureau, Eman, FM and Theo.
We have two free workers Toch and Cluadius by Arcturus, however counting our cities (16) and our workers (14) were far below the 1.5 worker to every city count. So we need about ten more workers according to that count. Were getting Railroad in 14 turns and were going to need that on Bode, Sol as well as Comet and the conquered Mav island.
We have two free workers Toch and Cluadius by Arcturus, however counting our cities (16) and our workers (14) were far below the 1.5 worker to every city count. So we need about ten more workers according to that count. Were getting Railroad in 14 turns and were going to need that on Bode, Sol as well as Comet and the conquered Mav island.
We're at the stage of the game where the 1.5 workers to cities rule-of-thumb no longer applies. It's more for the early stages while we're still settling. So I wouldn't be too worried about it for now.
BLubmuz
HoF Quattromaster
Half of the normal, so with barracks and theo (5XP normally) they have 2 or 3
You negate nothing to anyone, only non-state religions can't spread. Of course if you capture a city this will retain its religion (s).
Obviously i agree we need to spread Confu to any city, at least for the happy bonus.
We need more monasteries, at least 2 more before SM. And in different areas. 1 in Anjennida, 1 on Bode.
Ok
That is the team opinion
US, Bureau, eman, FM and Theo.
Low research rate at scimeth (we need then money to build something) and build some monas, one in Rigel now.
Before we change we (I) should look if we should whipp im some towns.
Hello
Please post bold if you do anything
That is crazy!
That is the team opinion
US, Bureau, eman, FM and Theo.
Low research rate at scimeth (we need then money to build something) and build some monas, one in Rigel now.
Before we change we (I) should look if we should whipp im some towns.
Hello
Please post bold if you do anything
That is crazy!
Hello Alpha
Our military transport is more important than the GM, I 've thought the GM is going to BOde with our units, there is no reason for extra shipping. 5-10 turns Ama can wait .
btw
we need at least 8 cannons at first landing, the other units are non im portant
Our military transport is more important than the GM, I 've thought the GM is going to BOde with our units, there is no reason for extra shipping. 5-10 turns Ama can wait .
btw
we need at least 8 cannons at first landing, the other units are non im portant
AlphaShard
Emperor
5-10 turns? 
Wow you must really want to piss them off.
I actually calculated that the Cannons would have taken about the same time to arrive in bode going on either Normandy or Ironside.
Wow you must really want to piss them off. I actually calculated that the Cannons would have taken about the same time to arrive in bode going on either Normandy or Ironside.
Then it's not that usefull. It's better to use Slavery instead.
Exactly. A foreign religion would not spread to our cities, therefore negating extra bonous to other civs if the religion would spread naturaly.
HAHA! Yeah, but after their stunt on Comet I also don't care if we piss Amazon off or not.5-10 turns?
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I'm a bit conserned with Culture. I think that we shouldn't take our Creative trait for granted. The percentage of border tiles in Andromeda is worrying me. As the Amazon cities in Comet, too. Should we consider rushing a theather in Aldebaran, Alcor and Mizar? Also one in Altair to push SpotB and get a bit of slack on the center?
And what about banks? We have a bunch of cities that are outputting Commerce in a quantity that would greatly benefict having a bank in them.
Theaters and Banks at half cost, people.
Of course, this is to be addressed after the army raising as we're in a stage where we can't afford to do things halfway and then change the direction.
BLubmuz
HoF Quattromaster
Banks at half cost were only in Vanilla and i think the earlier versions.
About the culture war you're right. First libraries, more useful than theaters, then theaters. Those added to our CRE trait will surely make any culture war lost for Ama.
About the culture war you're right. First libraries, more useful than theaters, then theaters. Those added to our CRE trait will surely make any culture war lost for Ama.
AlphaShard
Emperor
Well there's lots of ways to win culture wars, not to mention just boosting the culture slider up. I already put culture buildings in the queue for Mizar at least. Amazon should already start feeling the press, they are going to be pressed hard until they get there own Culture stuff going, we got a big head start already.
I still think we need some more workers, maybe we don't have to go crazy getting them but a couple more would be good. Once we finish off Mavericks we can focus more on our infrastructure, maybe sent a token force to Merlot area.
I so badly want to make privateers *sigh* I know no one is going to back that idea though lol.
I still think we need some more workers, maybe we don't have to go crazy getting them but a couple more would be good. Once we finish off Mavericks we can focus more on our infrastructure, maybe sent a token force to Merlot area.
I so badly want to make privateers *sigh* I know no one is going to back that idea though lol.
You're right. I should have been looking at Civilopedia and not CivFanatic's reference.
But nothing changes. Theatres are less expensive than libraries and give higher culture(we're the best techer around and Comet still doesn't have any cotages to take advantage of libs yet).
And banks are a major boost to our commerce specialized cities.
Are markets also relevant with their 150 hammers with 25% gold? Every coin helps to shave maintenace. We're throwing 100G/turn away just by city maintenance. 300G/turn, total.
Other thing, should we do out research at 60% this turn?
But nothing changes. Theatres are less expensive than libraries and give higher culture(we're the best techer around and Comet still doesn't have any cotages to take advantage of libs yet).
And banks are a major boost to our commerce specialized cities.
Are markets also relevant with their 150 hammers with 25% gold? Every coin helps to shave maintenace. We're throwing 100G/turn away just by city maintenance. 300G/turn, total.
Other thing, should we do out research at 60% this turn?
Trystero
Deity
Yes - Financial doesn't give half price banks in BTS, but Creative does give us half price libraries. So I agree with BLubmuz: Libraries first in the captured cities for culture and research.
I also agree with Irgy that we have enough workers for now. If we find we need more, we can always build them later. Our production should stay focused on our military objectives.
Privateers?
I also agree with Irgy that we have enough workers for now. If we find we need more, we can always build them later. Our production should stay focused on our military objectives.
Privateers?
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