Two civs completing a wonder at the same time

[Gri-Gri]

Hey Guys!

I was wondering if anyone knows how the game is deciding which civlization gets a wonder when two civs complete it at the exact same turn. I kind of read that it was based on the total number of hammers (you usually produce a bit more that what is needed, the left over being reused next turn).

Anyone can confirm that?

Same for techs with goodies (great people, free tech or religions). Is the amount of extra gold spent deciding who is considered the first discoverer (I have liberalism in mind here or any tech leading to a religion).

Thanks for any info!

 

[Nials]

I think that Civs are ordered into a list at the start at the game. Whoever is higher on the list wins out.

I also believe that the player is always placed first in single player.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Gri-Gri]

Whoa! If that's the case, that means multiplayer civ order is very important!

 

[Gri-Gri]

I guess I'm gonna have to create a fake multiplayer game & try it tonight...

 

[ICNP]

Interesting question. I'd agree that since everything is done in turns like a board game then it would be the first player. But in multiplayer there can be simultaneous turns. Only experiments will tell.

 

[Blossome]

... i just cant stand it that, when in process of building a wonder, with the last few 1-3 turns, the AI is quickly completing same just before me... happens a looooot... hmpfff grmbl...

 

[Handel]

Actually it is quite simple. If you have 1 turn left and pres Enter you finished the wonder. Of course if you get the message "Someoen finished the Wonder" before this you lose.
Everything you do is made when you press Enter befere everything else to happen. For example you collect food from a tile. You press Enter and an enemy comes and stands on the tile. Nevertheless you get the food from this tile for the turn.

 

[Gri-Gri]

Actually my question is related to a Multiplayer game. Anyways, I am pretty sure the same rules & questions would apply when we play against a computer. Can a computer finish a wonder before you on the exact same turn, and who would be the owner of the wonder?

 

[KMadCandy]

"Anyone can confirm that?" i can tell you it ain't true. overflow has zip zero nada nothing to do with who gets the wonder/bonus from the discovery.

rules for MP in the code are different than those for SP in "who wins the good thing" cases. like, SP me and shaka both discover DR the same turn. i automatically found the religion and he doesn't. in MP, you and i both discover DR the same turn, there is a random roll to find out who founds the religion. i do not know 100% whether that applies to wonders, the threads i've read have been single player only. i'm guessing that it does, logically it should, otherwise turn order would totally matter and give you a game-long advantage.

there have been threads about "ties" in SP and people digging into the code. what i have gathered from it is that delayed messages play into it, and a bug (or poor design decision) that even after an AI completes a wonder on their turn, the wonder still remains in your build queue, and the other AI "oops i missed out" gold isn't available for trade, until a turn later. that's my muddled memory and even the folks who dug into the code didn't exactly agree on how they interpreted the whole thing because it's so weirdly written.

what i remember 100% is that overflow hammers have nothing to do with the decision. at all. if you're going to be done in one turn anyway, do not bother to whip or buy or burn a GE (they give no overflow by themselves anyway) because it will not win you a race! applies to SP and to MP.

 

[Artie]

In multi player it seemd to me this was done alphabetically. I know with my bud this is the way it seemed as every time we both discover something on same turn he gets the prize. EVERYTIME.

On single player I have had an AI get the prize. Or I believe I have, I may be thinking of a multi player game and thinking it happened in single.