U.S.A getting ready for some pumelling?

[jc011]

wow, have you seen the military power U.S.A is starting to deploy?

i got this from the Toronto Star:

The U.S. Navy has two aircraft carrier battleship groups, the USS Enterprise and USS Carl Vinson, each equipped with 75 jets, near the Arabian Sea. Both can launch long-range cruise missiles.

U.S. military sealift command has tendered for two oil tankers to deliver 235,000 barrels of marine diesel fuel from Kuwait to a U.S. air force base in the Indian Ocean at Diego Garcia.

The military has also hired another oil tanker to ship 28,000 tonnes of aviation fuel from Greece to southern Spain.

Turkish military sources report American troops arriving and an increased U.S. military presence at the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey, regularly used to enforce the northern Iraq no-fly zone. Turkey will allow the base to be used if the United States decides to attack Iraq.

U.S. fighter jets and a navy cruiser are being sent to the Pacific island of Guam, including eight fighter jets and a guided missile cruiser.

Submarines armed with Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles are also being activated in various locations. The Tomahawks can fire 400-kilogram warheads accurately from 1,300 kilometres.

More than 85,000 soldiers at California's Fort Bragg Base, home of the 18th Airborne Corps, are on short-notice alert. The base also has dozens of C130 and C141 transport aircraft available to fly troops and equipment to war.

Also on alert is the 101st Airborne Division at Kentucky's Fort Campbell, the military's main helicopter fighting force which saw duty in the Gulf War.

holy sh!t this is nuts!

 

[jiml_63]

Did you think we were kidding?<br />BTW, before Ranger has a stroke....Fort Bragg is in North Carolina, not California... <img src="graemlins/snipersmilie.gif" border="0" alt="[Sniper]" />

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

Originally posted by jiml_63:<br />Did you think we were kidding?<br />BTW, before Ranger has a stroke....Fort Bragg is in North Carolina, not California... <img src="graemlins/snipersmilie.gif" border="0" alt="[Sniper]" /> <hr></blockquote>Not just Ranger, it was my base also, and Palehorse is there now.

 

[jc011]

Originally posted by jiml_63:<br /><strong>Did you think we were kidding?<br /></strong><hr></blockquote>

i didn't think you were kidding, but is all of this really necessary, i don't think they should go to the level of killing thousands more civilians. These are still people too you know, they're actaully afraid too. Instead they should just target the terrorists and their training facilities.

 

[allan]

My guess is that Saddam Hussein will be removed from power in Iraq--something that should have been done the FIRST time--and that we (or the UN) will occupy Iraq directly. Same with Afghanistan.

Remember, it's not just the terrorists themselves that must be eliminated, but all governments that would "aid and comfort" the enemy....

 

[shadowdale]

Well Allan it more likely that the US or the NATO alliance will consider occupying Iraq (something that I fins highly unlikely) than the UN!!

You'll never ever get the UN to occupy any other nation state - and I don't think that the UN has anything to do with the current "war" preperations that the US and maybe the NATO coutries are making in the middle east and els where in the world.

<img src="graemlins/snipersmilie.gif" border="0" alt="[Sniper]" />

 

[Rangers, Lead the Way]

OK, I'll have a stroke.

Keep in mind that war is mostly about psychology and will. Sun Tzu wrote that the ultimate form of victory was to break the enemy's will to resist and to balk his plans before there was any fighting. Battles and wars are won and lost when one side loses the will - rarely do you see total overruns unless the two sides are grossly overmatched to begin with. The 101st Airborne in Bastogne was a perfect demonstration - badly outnumbered, surrounded, outgunned, critically low on supplies and ammo, and utterly unbreakable in will.

There is some killing to be done here. No way around that. Not "thousands of civilians" - we could have already done that with B-52s and conventional ordnance. But there are some terrorists and their direct supporters who have bought themselves a one-way non-stop ticket to hell.

As for the alerts and buildup: If you know about it, so do they. That means countries like Libya, Sudan, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, who have all supported these groups in the past realize that we're not ****ing around. As the US and our NATO allies start forward deploying, leaders in these countries are starting to **** themselves, and make sure that they're on the right side of this thing.

Even Hussein is modifying his tone, Iran is now sealing the border with Afghanistan. The *******s who did this are in all likelihood waking up to the fact that they are getting a lot more than they bargained for.

One of the prime rules of terrorism is balance - you need to do enough to have a psychological effect on your target, but not do so much that you trigger a full response from your target. The *******s Tuesday lost sight of that, and they escalated to such an extreme degree, that have triggered that full commitment, not just from US, but from NATO, and much of the rest of the world.

 

[Morten Blaabjerg]

Ranger, I just wanted to say, that I get more insight from reading your posts, than from reading the papers these days! <img src="graemlins/goodwork.gif" border="0" alt="[Good Job]" />

Gotta say, full respect! I am really learning something here from your experience. Keep up!

 

[SunTzu]

Ranger you have hit it on the head. Saddam and everyone else are kissing our asses now.<br />The 101st are really gonna **** them up good <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> If i ever join the military i'm going out for Airborne! Hooahhhhh <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br />Oh yeah, Ranger and AoA. Did you go to West Point Academy? My grandfather was in charge of West Point for a while. Just wondering.

 

[Rangers, Lead the Way]

Originally posted by SunTzu:<br />Did you go to West Point Academy?<hr></blockquote>

Don't call us "sir", we worked for a living. <img src="icon12.gif" border="0">

No ringknockers, AoA and I were both NCOs.

Morten - thanks.

 

[G-Man]

Originally posted by jc011:<br /><strong>

i didn't think you were kidding, but is all of this really necessary, i don't think they should go to the level of killing thousands more civilians. These are still people too you know, they're actaully afraid too. Instead they should just target the terrorists and their training facilities.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think you understand the situation. The more advatage one side has, the more this side can afford to be careful. If two armies are pretty much the same power, the army won't have enough resources to check every suspect - the army will simply kill him. The US, being much stronger, can send enough troops to not only kill people but also to capture them and bring them to trial, therefore preventing the killing of innocent civilians. Also, the US have aircrafts armed with laser guided bombs, that only hit the terrorists and not the serrounding civilian buildings

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Isn't it amazing what you can learn from a website that's supposed to be dedicated to a computer game? I have already learnt more and gained a lot of new insights from all the postings in this forum, more than I'll ever gain from reading the news. Good work, guys! <img src="graemlins/goodwork.gif" border="0" alt="[Good Job]" />

 

[Flatlander Fox]

I am pretty certain that there will not be wide spread massacres of civilians like many people envision. The members of the U.S. Armed services are trained not to do that. Plus, the political ramifications would be too nasty.

Although that is what they did to us.

Instead, what you are going to see is surgery.

Cut the bad lump off and incinerate it.