UKNES3 - A Beacon of Hope

[Jason The King]

UK: I think it might be taking to long to get something done when you can't move when you make an army/fleet. Perhaps you could devise someother plan?

This is just my 2 cents.

Jason

 

[The Troquelet]

Yeah, the naval system is a little wierd. If Sweden wanted to invade Britain it would take him 4 whole turns! One to build the units, another to embark the armies, another to move, another to unload and attack. And from the start it would be perfectly obvious to Britain and he'd have four turns to prepare...

What I think works well but also simply is this:

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An army can move ONE space on land, OR it can move indefinitely on sea - that's up to the fleet.

A fleet can move ONE space on sea, AND it can embark passengers up to a total of four from any 1 location, disembark any passengers into 1 location, and also pass armies FOR FREE to any neighboring fleets. And it can carry armies indefinitely of course. So a fleet could embark some, move, disembark, and act as part of a convoy [NOT the tail end of the convoy though, because it already spent the disembarking part of its move].

Also, it would help if armies could move when created, but NOT over a border when created, that works well.

So, in that case, Sweden would take 2 turns to invade. One to build the armies and fleets, and move the 2nd fleet to sea C [it could convoy the armies over now, except for the border-crossing rule], and one more to convoy them all over. Enough to take Britain off guard, but not surprise him completely. After all, he'll see the convoy coming...

 

[Jason The King]

That is what it is like in JNES too. It just works better and has a fast resolve to everything. Four turns is roughly a week, and by that time the idea of invading is already fading!lol. Anyways, whatever you do, Nemesis, is fine with me, as it is your NES.

 

[The Troquelet]

Or, if you want to avoid the sort of border skirmishes that occurred in the last game, you can set a limit to the amount of units that each building type can produce per turn...

 

[Kennelly]

To:Teutonic order
From:Germany

Dear Otto,

we see it with great pleasure you were finally able to christianize the Prussians in the past years.I hope you will spread the glory of the Christian church even further East and offer you a Non-Aggression pact.

[OOC whats this with luxuries which also affect my happiness?How do I get them? OOC]

 

[uknemesis]

Luxuries aren't anything really, except like jesters in ARTNES. Basically for 1 gold, you add 1 happiness to 1 province.

As for the transport system, it's staying the way it is, but there are a few things I forgot to mention about it, such as:

A fleet can unload units AND load units in the same turn. Ie; a fleet in D could take 2 armies on from 6 and deposit 2 already on board in 4. Also, any number of provinces can be involved in it(ie; one from 5, one from 6, one to 4, one to 3).

Finally, moving along a convoy also takes no movement cost. That means an army could board one end of the convoy and get off of the other end the next turn. For the first turn it would take the turns of all the fleets in the convoy, and for the second it would only take the last fleet's. All of those fleets can be loading and unloading while in the convoy.

A fleet can carry only 4 units in one turn however.

Nemesis

 

[uknemesis]

Also, this system is designed to give a lot of advance warning, as this isn't D-Day(although the Germans knew that was coming), but a time when the sails would be seen a long time before they landed. Also, it is slow, just as it was.

But I am going to try and update daily, so that the turns fly by.

Nemesis

 

[tctatheel7]

can i be austria?

 

[uknemesis]

Yes, course you can. Just send in orders before tonight, as that's the next update.

Nemesis

 

[tctatheel7]

do i propose alliances by myself or through my orders?

 

[uknemesis]

Buys and moves are the only things put in orders(basically, things that affect your nation, and no other unless you're attacking them).

Things like alliances etc, diplomacy, politics and other stuff are all posted on here.

Nemesis

 

[Juliennew]

OOC : Demetrias, the DPP is a defensive alliance. I only come to help you if you are attacked, not if you are the agressor.

From Britain

To the CN :
I hope you the best for your alliance. May Christianity spreads in Europe.

 

[tctatheel7]

The empire of Austria offers a defensive alliance with the honorable Teutons.

 

[Revolutionairy]

OOC hey Julien who's CN?

 

[Demetrias]

To brittian
From Sweden
Then i except. Thank you for your offer and i hope our nations can continue to grow in friendship and Trust.

To The Cn.
From King Hothgar
i hope your alliance is for peaceful intentions. I must support any christian nation your coalition fights for personal gain. if you are not the aggressors then i will not enterfer. May you always be peaceful so that war may never come to war between us.

 

[Juliennew]

OOC : The CN is the alliance between Germany - France and Spain. I thought you named it "CN".

 

[uknemesis]

Right, I've decided to allow it that you can move your armies into an unclaimed province and claim it for 5 gold in the same turn.

Julien, your armies will be on board the fleet for this turn, only next turn can they move into Ireland.

Also, if you are at war with a nation, peace must be declared before you can claim any of their provinces you have taken.

Nemesis

 

[Revolutionairy]

OOC did I? what did I say it stood for? (Im very confused at the moment)

 

[Jason The King]

the CN (i think civilised Nations, in JNES) was only proposed, and not final yet, as Spain does not agree. I propose WEPP, Western European Peacekeeping Pact.

UK, since you changed the rules, I will send in new orders...

 

[Kennelly]

To:Spain
From:Germany

Germany disagrees with this proposal,we don't consider us western Europeans but being in the center of Europe.As you,Spain are also more Southern European why don't we just call us EPP?

Albrecht I,King of Germany