Unique Unit Elimination Thread

[Sake]

B17 6
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 19
Impi 37 - Will fight with carolean and janissary for best infantry UU.Truly amazing unit when combined with ikanda's promotions.
Jaguar 6
Janissary 37
Keshik 37
Longbowman 38
Minutemen 2
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 33
Winged Hussar 13 - I like them, not their upgrade path. If you have to wait 3 eras for next upgrade, there's something wrong. Awesome unit, that can even dominate on late renaissance (that's saying a lot for lancer UU), but they will be sitting useless when GWI comes to field. If you patiently wait 3 eras, you will get nice helicopters, but during that time they will just eat your gpt.

 

[Jamesson]

B17 6
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 19
Impi 37
Jaguar 6
Janissary 37
Keshik 37
Longbowman 39 - Still the best
Minutemen 0 - I like this unit, but it's obviously going to go soon and isn't too good compared to what's left either
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 33
Winged Hussar 13

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

B17 3
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 19
Impi 37
Jaguar 6
Janissary 37
Keshik 37
Longbowman 39
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

B17. It's not bad. But it's the worst left, as it comes fairly late when you'd probably win without it so it doesn't really change the game.

Siege Tower. You can create a whole strategy around this. Beeline them, and take cities to fill techs you missed. 2 or more of these will terrify enemy cities. It's expensive to go to war early game, but you'll be making a lot of money by taking cities down so quickly.

 

[Chippeth]

B17 3
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 16
Impi 37
Jaguar 6
Janissary 38
Keshik 37
Longbowman 39
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

Janissaries are what make the Ottomans more than a gimmicky civ, in my opinion. Amazing when going on a late game conquest spree.

On the other hand, I have never really found myself utilising any type of Cavalry. Might be down to playstyle, but I find the remaining UUs see more use in my games. Even the Hussar.

Also, quick question: why do people believe that the Tercio and Musketeer are better UUs than the Minuteman? I never really thought either were as useful, especially Musketeer.

 

[bozosmithy]

B17 3
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 16
Impi 37
Jaguar 5 too early for me
Janissary 38
Keshik 37
Longbowman 40 Make a few of these before machine guns your laughing
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

 

[VicRatlhead5199]

B17 0 If you have the ability to spam bombers you're more than likely already in a position of power. I don't feel like these change the balance much. It's also a long time to wait for a UU.
Camel Archer 36
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 16
Impi 37
Jaguar 5
Janissary 38
Keshik 37
Longbowman 41 A lot of the debate betw these and CKNs has been focused on promotions, who will get them faster, who's stronger, etc. The truth is even with military tradition and an armory only a few of either unit are going to hit level 4 before being upgraded to gats. In my opinion a 2 range gat is just more useful than a 1 range gat that can attack twice. Mainly because they aren't competing with melee units for attack position and are more effective when being used as a garrison. Every longbowman that upgrades will have 2 range including ones in garrisons who've never seen any action at all. Longbows are stronger, can avoid taking damage and upgrade to better gatling guns.
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

I really like that a lot of the units left are Vanilla or pre G&K DLC units. Just goes to show that the game is more balanced between old and new than some people think. 6 of the top ten are pre G&K

 

[Pepo]

Camel Archer 36+1= 37 a really good unit.even better than keshisk
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 16
Impi 37
Jaguar 5 -3=2 all the units left are really good but IMO this unit is the worst.really the best thing of the jaguar are the cool bonuses it gets,but it gets obsololete quickly and if you build enougth to keep a good army,your economy will suffer
Janissary 38
Keshik 37
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

 

[BUDISMYBUDDY]

Camel Archer 36+1= 37 a really good unit.even better than keshisk
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 16
Impi 37
Jaguar 2-3= so long even though i think you are a great unit, others dont agree
Janissary 38
Keshik 37+1= 38 i am gonna stay voting these up because i just love them especially with khans
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

 

[Teagen]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 41
Cossack 13 I would honestly say this the "worst" of what's left...it seems to only help you win fights you'd win anyway quicker, which isn't bad...but there are better UU's.
Impi 37
Janissary 39 I like Musketmen units, so I gotta go with this
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 13

 

[Matthew.]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 37
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 10

More Chu love! Range is overrated once you hit Gatling anyway. Artillery/Bomber spam will be doing most of the damage (to anything left that survived medieval, that is ). Just pick up march and use Chu-Gatling as your pseudo-melee blitz/march front line. If they manage to get +1 range, then all the better

Had to vote either Cossack or Winger, and had to go with Winger primarily for upgrade path. Granted, Cossack take a while to upgrade, too, but when you do they will be more useful for the late-game trek from city to city so may as well have promotions stacked on the unit that will carry over. I suppose highly upgraded anti-tank Wingers would be okay for a peaceful game, but how many people pick up anti-tank guns in smaller/peaceful games?

 

[jlim201]

10. Siege Tower
11. Sea Beggar
12. Naresuan's Elephant
13. Cossack
14. Winged Hussar
15. Jaguar
16. B17
17. Minuteman
18. Horse Archer
19. Hussar
20. Berber Cavalry
21. Immortal
22. Conquistador
23. Tercio
24. Hwacha
25. Battering Ram
26. Companion Cavalry
27. Pictish Warrior
28. Legion
29. Mohawk Warrior
30- Berserker
31. A. F. Elephant
32. Musketeer
33. Sipahi
34. Nau
35. Norwegian Ski Infantry
36. Turtle Ship
37. War elephant
38. Cataphract
39. Dromon
40. Samurai
41. Panzer
42. Mandekalu Cavalry
43. Mehal Sefari
44. Great Galleass
45. Comanche rider
46. Kris swordsman
47. Ballista
48. Hoplite
49, Bowmen
50. Hakkas
51. Pracinha
52. Maori Warrior
53. Slinger
54. Atlatlist
55. Quinquereme
56. Landsknecht
57. Zero
58. War Chariot

Best Plane- B17
Best Siege Unit- Siege Tower
Best Ranged Ship- Ship of the Line
Best Melee ship- Sea Beggar
Best Melee Mounted Unit- Naresuan's Elephant
Best Ranged Mounted Unit-
Best Melee Unit-
Best Archery Unit-
Best Land Unit
Best Naval Unit- Ship of the Line

Best Ancient- Pathfinder
Best Classical- Siege Tower
Best Medieval- 6
Best Renaissance- 3
Best Industrial- Carolean
Best Atomic- B17

Worst Plane- Zero
Worst Siege Unit- Ballistae
Worst Ranged Ship- Great Galleass
Worst Melee Ship- Quinquereme
Worst Melee Mounted- Hakkapellita
Worst Ranged Mounted- War Chariot
Worst Melee Unit- Landsknecht (Maori Warrior)
Worst Archery Unit- Atlatlist

Worst Ancient- War Chariot
Worst Classical- Ballistae
Worst Medieval- Landsknecht (
Worst Renaissance- Turtle Ship
Worst Industrial- Hakkapellita
Worst Atomic- Zero

 

[jlim201]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 35
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21
Pathfinder 38- Getting a combined scout warrior is amazing early game, and it can pick its promotions.
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 7- I really like it, but its still a lancer.

 

[cpm4001]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 35 + 1 = 36
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 21 - 3 = 18
Pathfinder 38
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 7

Already explained why I feel the way I do about the Caroleans and Naresuan's Elephants. Wish I could save the Hussar, but everyone hates 'em for some reason...ah well. Can't have everything.

 

[DeathwatchBob]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 36
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 18
Pathfinder 39
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 4

Pathfinder boosts your game regardless of your VC.

I think Winged Hussar is cool as well, but sadly the lancer line is just not that relevant.

 

[Frossa]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 37
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 18
Pathfinder 39
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 1 Attempted coup de grace.

 

[Jernfrau]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 37
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 39
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 18
Pathfinder 40 This is immensely helpful for every situation
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34
Winged Hussar 0 Goodnight sweet prince

 

[fuzzatron717]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 38 LIVE!!!
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 13
Impi 37
Janissary 36 DIE!!!
Keshik 38
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 18
Pathfinder 40
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34

 

[arand86]

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 38
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 10 Nice unit, but not consequential enough to keep going.
Impi 37
Janissary 36
Keshik 39 Keshiks must live. And they always do, is the thing. You could run a Keshik swarm into hills/forests and attack a city, and you'd still come out with all your men. If you pre-build chariot archers, these can start with quite a bit of EXP and rack them up in bunches fast. And worst off all, there basically isn't a defense. Not great wall, you can't use infantry to kill them as they'd get mowed, hell, you can't even run knights at them since they could keep speed with a knight and still have time to shoot.
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 18
Pathfinder 40
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34

 

[sendos]

Loving this vote a lot!

Camel Archer 37
Carolean 38
Chu-Ko-Nu 42
Cossack 10
Impi 37
Janissary 36
Keshik 40 Another unit joins the 40's club.
Longbowman 41
Naresuan's Elephant 15 - I was considering voting down Cossack, but I voted that up earlier. I would be wasting my votes a bit. Anyway, I think this unit loses its edge in the industrial era.
Pathfinder 40
Sea Beggar 27
Ship of the Line 34
Siege Tower 34

 

[jlim201]

Naresuan's Elephant 15 - I was considering voting down Cossack, but I voted that up earlier. I would be wasting my votes a bit. Anyway, I think this unit loses its edge in the industrial era.


Duh, it's a medieval unit. Almost all other units can last max 2eras